Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] RE: [borderpoint] Re: Spanish provincial tripoint marker... or not
Date: Sep 13, 2005 @ 00:34
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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> >>the fact that the railway is abandoned doesnt athttp://www.albaiges.com/historia/historiatresreyes.htm
> all
> necessarily mean that the legal position of the
> tripoint adjacent to the railway & shown on the best
> available & current official maps has also been
> abandoned with it<<
>
> That was just a casual comment for informational
> purposes - it was not
> intended that any inference about the tripoint
> should be drawn from it
>
> Cheers
>
> Hugh
>
>
> _____
>
> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:46 PM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] RE: [borderpoint] Re:
> Spanish provincial
> tripoint marker... or not
>
>
> bravissimos & vivas from me too hugh
>
> & i agree you must have arcala the second one right
> & that jimmy is confused
> but i also agree with him about arcllo the first one
>
> because
> the fact that the railway is abandoned doesnt at all
> necessarily mean that the legal position of the
> tripoint adjacent to the railway & shown on the best
> available & current official maps has also been
> abandoned with it
>
> --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:
>
> > The mojon I photoed is the same one that is
> pictured
> > at
> >
>
> > so I don't quitehttp://www.albaiges.com/historia/historiatresreyes.htm
> > understand the comment about the "third" (unless
> you
> > are referring to the
> > second one on my web page - but that is at a
> > different tripoint).
> >
> > I searched around on both sides of the road for
> > other ones but found
> > nothing. The railway is abandoned by the way.
> >
> > I am in Madrid now so no chance of getting back
> > there (its about 300km away)
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of jim van dura
> > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:42 PM
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com;
> > borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] RE: [borderpoint] Re:
> > Spanish provincial
> > tripoint marker... or not
> >
> >
> > Beautifully done, Hugh! We thought there might be
> > two
> > mojones, and here you have brought us a third!
> Nice
> > to
> > see they have no sense of direction too! But did
> you
> > not try to reach the real mojon also, as shown on
> > Peter's officially authoritative treasure map???
> Or
> > are you still in close enough range to double back
> > for
> > this coup de grace?
> > Jimmy
> >
> > --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Peter and Jimmy
> > >
> > > I have visited this tripoint and you can find
> the
> > > results of my visit
> > > documented at http://tinyurl.com/baglc
> > >
> > > I have copied this to boundarypoint since I have
> > now
> > > been reliably informed
> > > that is the correct place to discuss tripointing
> > and
> > > I don't want to step on
> > > people's toes, being new and all :)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Hugh
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:borderpoint@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of jimvandura
> > > Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 11:26 PM
> > > To: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [borderpoint] Re: Spanish provincial
> > > tripoint marker... or not
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In borderpoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter
> > > Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > On the website
> > >
> >
>
> > >http://www.larioja.org/sig/imagenes/5000/25tp2927.gif
> > > > there is a picture of the tripoint of the
> > Spanish
> > > regions Navarre, La
> > > > Rioja, and Aragon (provinces Navarre, La
> Rioja,
> > > Zaragoza). It should
> > > > be at the side of the road (the N113 according
> > to
> > > my Michelin road
> > > > map), and that road can be seen in the
> pictures.
> > > Convincing so far.
> > > >
> > > > But on the map sites of Navarre (
> > > http://sitna.tracasa.es/ ) and La
> > > > Rioja (direct access to relevant map at
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> > > ) the "mojón de=== message truncated ===
> > > > los tres reyes" is not at this roadside, but
> at
> > > the other side of the
> > > > railway, to the northwest of the location at
> the
> > > road.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe there are two markers: the "correct"
> one,
> > > and the one on the
> > > > roadside. The one in the pictures very much
> > > resembles other such
> > > > roadside markers in Spain, which I suspect
> mark
> > > the border of the
> > > > provincial road network authorities more
> > > accurately than that they
> > > > mark the provincial territories themselves.
> > > >
> > > > Does somebody have any thoughts on this?
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > >
> > > Hi! Jimmy Van Dura, class of '75, at your
> service,
> > > having just joined both
> > > your fascinating
> > > point lists. And I was a little confused how
> this
> > > subject qualified as an
> > > international
> > > boundary topic rather than a tripoint topic. But
> I
> > > think you got it exactly
> > > right in the end,
> > > Peter, and that the pictures are not really "of
> > the
> > > tripoint," as they were
> > > said to be.
> > > It is amazing how much false information
> > there
> > > is on the web, but also
>