Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: toward happier obelisks
Date: Mar 17, 2001 @ 22:55
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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what a beautiful & imposing construction this is

it fairly suggests the idea of a national cadastral cathedral
& a receptacle for a real point of reference to reverence

for it seems only natural to enshrine a beginning place
& frankly much better to lift it skyward like this than merely to encrypt
it underground

but did they really build the tower to mark the point
or did they hail it back into service in old age to hang the grid upon its
spire
after a previous illustrious career in some other capacity


also your info here peter appears to be the essential missing link for
really understanding what harry was saying in message 1804 about what
brendan was saying in message 1794 & earlier

for it now seems that one of the routes to the most precise possible
determination of the baarle boundary cross point really begins here in
amersfoort
while the other route perhaps begins from the belgian counterpart to this
monument
wherever or whatever that may be

i certainly hope you can lead us further along the way here too

m


& so what if it isnt an obelisk
it still wins gold for our greatest uplift so far



>
>Well, not exactly an obelisk, but this is the centre of the Dutch
>triangulation grid as used by the cadaster and the topographical
>service: <http://www.vvv-amersfoort.com/kunst/architectuur/histor1.htm>
>http://www.vvv-amersfoort.com/kunst/architectuur/histor1.htm
>
>So you could say it is the centre of the Netherlands (although the
>geographical centre is somewhere else. I vaguely remember it to be
>somewhere near Lunteren). It is the starting point of all surveying.
>
>It used to be X=0 m, Y=0 m. But then they thought it would be better
>to have only positive co-ordinates in the Netherlands, so they moved
>the point to the south-west. The grid stayed the same, but the tower
>nowadays has the co-ordinates X=155000 m, Y=463000 m.
>
>I visited the tower (Onze Lieve Vrouwetoren) in the city of
>Amersfoort last year. As I remember, the X and Y axis are depicted on
>the ground and radiate from the tower.
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., jane capellaro <j@d...> wrote:
>> well thanx for running down that obelisk peter
>> & i do apologize for the horrendously bad query
>>
>> it was the resemblance between hoogstift & stifter that got me in
>dutch &
>> czech here simultaneously
>>
>> seriously glad to learn this is not an olympic contender tho
>> since the tallest actual tripoint & boundary obelisk i know of is
>the
>> little one at us2ctmari
>> of which a photo is attached below
>>
>> taller & more distinctive than this one
>> tho i have only half a pic of it & am hoping jack can bail me out
>here with
>> a good pic because he just visited there last year
>> is the commemorative quintiobelisk that stands a short distance
>from the
>> initial point of the sixth principal meridian of the united states
>public
>> land survey
>>
>> the actual point it celebrates
>> hidden in a crypt beneath a roadway
>> is simultaneously also both an interstate & a quadricounty point
>> or us2ksne3jerethwa6pm in all i think by name
>>
>> the obelisk is a quinti because lands of 5 states were surveyed
>from this
>> point of reference
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>>
>> Love,
>> Jane
>
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