French GIS: http://www.geomapguide.com/diren/nature.mwf?LayersViewWidth=200&LAT=1871585.539513&LON=1009376.437856&WIDTH=1091.320428&UNITS=ft&EXT=.MWF (requires some plug ins)
Cannot trust line as border (look at the port) .
But since I believe the border is a straight line from FRMC(w) to FRMCw/MCw/MCh and since I believe the border at the port goes a few meters from the water (the green line?) the football ground does appear to be divided.
Jesper
Fra:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] På vegne af Wolfgang Schaub
Sendt: 23. juni 2005 21:27
Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Emne: AW: AW: [BoundaryPoint] Re:
MCFR(w)
YES precisely so. The address is: Villa Frontière, 24, Chemin des Révoires. The W corner of the villa property forms the right angle that the border takes here, and at the same time, this is the highest point in Monaco. (Just by the way, since I prefer to climb my highpoints from the territory to which they belong, ie. from Monaco and not from France, this was so far my only highpoint for which I required to take an elevator, for a steep section of Chemin des Révoires. The Chemin des Révoires is not visible on the map as it is a minor walkway, mixed with stairs, and, as said, an elevator. Finally I needed to ring a bell to step on private land, but the landlady graciously permitted me to come in.)
See what my mountain climbing has to offer in reality: Most is sheer hoity-toity.
Wolfgang
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von aletheia kallos
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005 20:32
An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [BoundaryPoint] Re: MCFR(w)nice
so do you mean
mch & mcw & frmch & frmcw are all in reality a single
point
perhaps the point shown right here as mcsw too
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/europe/monaco.jpg
well then that really is a true multipoint of sorts
isnt it
--- Wolfgang Schaub
<Wolfgang.Schaub@...> wrote:
> Just for the sake of saying something, in the
> logorrhoic mode that seems
> appropriate here: The westernmost point of Monaco
> (dry) is identical to
> Monaco's highpoint (high), so try the high in dry
> (weather I mean).
>
> Wolfgang
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von
> aletheiak
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Juni 2005 18:58
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Re: MCFR(w)
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia
> kallos <aletheiak@y...>
> wrote:
> > how exactly
>
> aha i see how exactly
>
> & thats certainly not approximate dry frmcw btw
> but mcfrw properly so called thank you
>
> for it isnt the approximate westernmost point of
> frmc you seek
> but only the approximate more westerly coast point
> of frmc
>
> & so you have brilliantly invented a way to
> distinguish coast points from
> extremities
>
> just counteralphabetize the country codes of coast
> points
> so we will be alerted that something is fishy
>
> very nice indeed
>
>
> & a true border base it is as well
> yikes
> if borders are based in the sea like ships or
> chowders
>
> for why shouldnt they be
>
>
> but then how will you tell a border base from a
> bouillabaisse
>
> & how will you ever cook your books enough to make
> just any border or
> border base
> or clave or highpoint or extremity or stamp or
> aerial pic etc etc
> into a true multipoint
>
> well i will tell you how
> at least in the case of a border base
>
> for
> since 2 times 2 equals 4
> a true border base
> as i would define it based on your offering here
> is actually just the vague quadriarea
> or the approximate quadripoint
> of both the maritime & the terrestrial territories
> of any 2 coastally
> adjacent countries
>
> & voila
> multidimensionality in some sense
> is attained
>
> & just as in real multipointing
> no matter that you might be hundreds of meters off
> so long as you are
> trying
>
> think of it like wolfgang trying to justify how
> highpointing is sorta like
> border freaking or
> postage stamping
> when he is actually at a loss to even relate in
> any way to multipointing
>
> > this link gives 2 slightly different maps
> > if you click on the pdf link in it too
> >
>
http://www.monte-carlo.mc/principalitymonaco/globalinformations/maps.html
> >
> > & a class d photo
> > evidently taken from the corniche
> >
> http://www.glf.it/italiano/lavori/italia/monaco.jpg
> >
> > your point falls just right of center
> > roughly at the end of the harbor & its enclosing
> jetty
> > which are both entirely if barely in france
> > according to both maps
> >
> > here it is again at far right
> > a bit clearer
> > & likely just at the end of what looks to be an
> > elevated breakwater
> >
>
http://www.gilbertboat.com/park/France/Port_de_Cap_d_Ail/
> >
> > --- Jesper Nielsen <jesniel@t...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Does anybody here know where excactly MCFR
> hits the
> > > sea at it's western land terminus?
> > >
> > > Jesper
> >
> >
> >
> >
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