thanx
& this also seems to indicate the middle rather than the thalweg of the pededze
but we are still left guessing about the location til we see either the accompanying map or
the mentioned but still elusive tripoint treaty text
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Brendan Whyte <bwhyte@u...> wrote:
> Three Russian-Estonian treaties at
> http://www.vm.ee/est/kat_475/5445.html
>
> 9. mai 2005
> Piirilepped Venemaaga
> Eesti Vabariigi ja Vene Föderatsiooni vaheline Eesti-Vene riigipiiri
> leping [ie land boundary]
> <http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/146/Riigipiiri_leping_Venemaaga_est.pdf>EESTI
> KEELES |
> <http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/372/Riigipiiri_leping_Venemaaga_rus.pdf>VENE
> KEELES
> Eesti Vabariigi ja Vene Föderatsiooni vaheline Narva ja Soome lahe
> merealade piiritlemise leping [ie maritime boundary]
> <http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/308/Merepiiri_leping_Venemaaga_est.pdf>EESTI
> KEELES |
> <http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/364/Merepiiri_leping_Venemaaga_rus.pdf>VENE
> KEELES
> Eesti Vabariigi ja Vene Föderatsiooni vahelise maismaa riigipiiri kulgemise
> kirjeldus [ie appendix 1 to land boundary]
> <http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/138/Riigipiiri_kulgemise_kirjeldus_est.pdf>EESTI
> KEELES |
> <http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/378/Riigipiiri_kulgemise_kirjeldus_rus.pdf>VENE
> KEELES
>
>
>
> Third treaty: Appendix 1 to land boundary
>
> Russian version at
> http://web-static.vm.ee/static/failid/378/Riigipiiri_kulgemise_kirjeldus_rus.pdf
> translated by Babelfish (though the paragraphs covering points 5-10 and
> 11-15 both give Babelfish problems, as it repeats the section about point
> 5, while ignoring the section about point 6. similarly for the next
> paragraph. I can't work it out, but have amended the text so it should now
> be correct, but "caveat lector"!
>
>
> Appendix 1 to the agreement between the Estonian republic and the Russian
> Federation about the Estonian- Russian state border
>
> DESCRIPTION
>
> the passage of the state border between the Estonian republic and the
> Russian Federation in the land section the extent of the state border
> between the Estonian republic and the Russian Federation (further -
> boundary) - 333.7 km, including along the land and the rivers - 207.5 km,
> on the Pskov, warm and Chudskyyu lakes - 126.2 km.
>
> The initial point of boundary is located at the point of the joint of the
> state borders of Estonian republic, Russian Federation and Latvian republic
> on the middle the initial point of boundary is located at the point of the
> joint of the state borders of Estonian republic, Russian Federation and
> Latvian republic on the middle
>
> From this point the boundary goes 8 km in the general northern direction
> upstream from this point the boundary goes 8 km in the general northern
> direction upstream river Of pedetsi (Pededze) of nameless stream.
>
> Near the Estonian farmstead Of suuremyae the boundary will move away from
> the stream, go 0.6 km in east and 0.9 km in northeast directions on the
> swampy scaffolding.
>
> Further boundary goes 0.5 km in north and 1.3 km in northeast directions on
> the scaffolding to Kriyva lake and intersects it in the southern part.
>
> From Kriyva lake the boundary goes 1 km in east, 0.4 km in southeast and
> 0.9 km in north-northeast directions on the swampy scaffolding,
> intersecting the field road between the Estonian village Of kriyva and the
> Russian village of the Bobrovs. After passing 0.2 km in the eastern-north-
> eastern direction along the swamp, boundary approaches after passing 0.2 km
> in the eastern-north- eastern direction along the swamp, boundary
> approaches lake Pabra (Bobrovskoye) To kodapolene.
>
> From from lake Pabra (Bobrovskoye) 0.1 km along the stream To kodapolene
> northwards, then 0.4 km in north-northwest and 0.8 km in west directions on
> the swamp and the swampy scaffolding, 0.6 km in north and 0.8 km in
> eastern-north- east directions on the scaffolding and plowed land,
> intersecting stream To kodapolene, then 1.5 km northwards on the scaffolding.
>
> Further boundary goes 0.9 km in the western-north- western direction on the
> scaffolding and the plowed land, intersecting the gas pipe, which passes in
> the middle of this section, then 0.4 km northwards on the scaffolding
> between the Estonian farmstead the saar and the Russian farmstead Zhelezovo
> 2- e, it turns to the West, through 0.4 km to the north and, after passing
> 0.1 km in the same direction on the scaffolding, it approaches the highway
> Pskov- Riga.
>
> After the intersection with highway Pskov- Riga boundary goes 0.6 km in the
> north-northeastern direction along the plowed land and the meadows, leaving
> on the Estonian side farmstead To khal'yasoru, and on the Russian side
> village Gorlanovo, then 0.2 km in northwestern direction on the plowed land
> through the hill, 0.9 km in the north-northeastern direction, in essence on
> the scaffolding, leaving farmsteads Of vakhtr and Pala on the Estonian
> side, then 0.3 km in the north-northwestern direction on the meadow and the
> scaffolding.
>
> Further boundary goes 0.1 km in north-northeast and 0.3 km in
> north-northwestern directions along the meadow and scaffolding, leaving the
> farmstead of 3 Valgemetsa on the Estonian side, and 0.9 km in the
> north-northwestern direction on the scaffolding to the southern shore of
> reservoir To vaniku, then 0.4 km in north-northeastern direction on the
> reservoir, 0.1 km in eastern-north- eastern direction to the output of the
> stream Of meeksi (Yaamaoya) from the reservoir, 4.6 km in the general
> northeastern direction downstream of the stream Of meeksi (Yaamaoya) to the
> point, find in 1 km to the southeast from the Estonian farmstead Of myae
> and 0.6 km southwest of Russian farmstead Laptev 1sts.
>
> From the point indicated the boundary goes 0.2 km eastwards along the
> swampy meadow, then 0.5 km in north-northwest and 1 km in eastern
> directions along the axis of land-reclamation ditch and scaffolding,
> leaving the farmsteads of village Laptev 1sts on the Russian side.
>
> Further boundary goes 0.4 km in north and 2.1 km in northeast directions
> along the axis of land-reclamation ditches, on the plowed land and the
> scaffolding, intersecting the motor road between the Estonian village To
> miykse and the Russian village Voronkino, leaving the farmstead Of tulika
> on the Estonian side, 0.3 km in eastern-south- east and 1.3 km in
> south-south- east directions on the swampy scaffolding, along the axis of
> land-reclamation ditch and on the northeastern shore Of voronkino lake,
> intersecting the road between the Estonian village Keatses and the Russian
> village Voronkino, leaving farmstead To nurme on the Estonian side, and
> village Voronkino and Voronkino lake on the Russian side.
>
> From Voronkino lake the boundary goes 0.5 km in the eastern-north- eastern
> direction on the scaffolding, then 0.9 km northwards along the edge of
> plowed land and forests, leaving farmstead To raatuze on the Estonian side,
> and village Nastakhino on the Russian side, 1.4 km in the northeastern
> direction on the plowed land and scaffolding, leaving the farmstead Of
> myaeotsa on the Estonian side, and 2.1 km in the south-south- eastern
> direction with the bend to the West on the scaffolding, leaving the
> farmstead Of mustoya on the Estonian side.
>
> Further boundary goes 0,4 km in eastern-north- east and 0.7 km in north
> directions along the scaffolding and the swamp, then 1.4 km in the
> southeastern direction along the axis of land-reclamation stream and 3.7 km
> northwards on the scaffolding and plowed land, leaving Engli lake and
> farmstead Of marinova on the Estonian side, and village Laptev 2- e,
> Bel'sko and Yemel'yanovo on the Russian side.
>
> Further boundary goes 1.1 km northwards on the plowed land, then 0.8 km
> westwards along the axis of land-reclamation ditch and plowed land, leaving
> farmsteads Kotelevo on the Russian side, further 1.1 km in the
> eastern-north- eastern direction on the plowed land and the axis of
> land-reclamation ditch.
>
> Then boundary goes 0.1 km northwards along the axis of land-reclamation
> ditch, then 0.5 km in the northwestern direction on the plowed land,
> leaving quarry on the Russian side, further 0.6 km in the same direction on
> the plowed land, intersecting the motor road between the Estonian village
> Of meremyae and the Russian village Taylovo, leaving the village Of vinski
> on the Estonian side.
>
> Then boundary passes 0.3 km westwards on the forest belt, leaving farmstead
> Murashkino on the Russian side, 1.1 km in the general northern direction on
> the edge of forest, plowed land and along the axis of land-reclamation
> ditch, then 0.5 km in the northeastern direction along the axis of
> land-reclamation ditch and the forest belt, 2.2 km in the general
> north-northwestern direction along the axis of land-reclamation ditches,
> the scaffolding and the plowed land, leaving the village Of tiyrkhanna on
> the Estonian side, and village Ulanovo on the Russian side. Further 0.5 km
> in the northeastern direction along the edge of forest and the plowed land,
> then 0.3 km in south-south- east, 1.1 km in northeast, 0.3 km in south, 0.5
> km in east and 0.7 km in northeast directions along the axis of
> land-reclamation ditches, leaving the farmstead Of triginya on the Estonian
> side, and farmstead Babino on Russian side, 1.2 km in the northeastern
> direction along the axis of land-reclamation ditch, leaving village
> Ul'yantsevo on the Russian side.
>
> Further boundary goes 0.5 km in the north-northwestern direction on the
> plowed land, leaving the farmsteads of the village Of khelbi on the
> Estonian side, 0.3 km in northeast and 0.5 km in eastern directions on the
> plowed land even 0.7 km in the north-northwestern direction on the
> scaffolding to the river of protein, leaving the village Of maaslova on the
> Estonian side, then 1 km eastwards upstream of the river of protein to its
> turning to the south 1 km southwest of Russian village Chal'tsevo.
>
> From this point the boundary goes 0.4 km in northwest, 0.4 km in west, 0.7
> km in north and 0.3 km in eastern-north- east directions on the scaffolding
> to the motor road between the Estonian village Of vymmorski and Russian
> city of Pechora, then 0.5 km in the southeastern direction along the motor
> road of Vymmorski- Pechora, leaving it and the section of forest on the
> Estonian side.
>
> After the intersection of the road of Vymmorski- Pechora the boundary goes
> 1.3 km in the general northern direction on the scaffolding and the plowed
> land, leaving farmsteads Chal'tsevo on the Russian side, then 0.3 km
> westwards on the edge of forest and the floodland meadow to after the
> intersection of the road of Vymmorski- Pechora the boundary
>
> Further boundary goes 17.3 km in the general eastern direction on the
> middle of the natural bed further boundary goes 17.3 km in the general
> eastern direction on the middle of the natural bed river Of piuza (Pimzha)
> the highway of R4pina- Pechora, railroad bridges on the lines
> Valga-Pechora- Pskov and Tartu-Pechora- Pskov, gas pipe near the mouth of
> the stream Of khybeoya (silver).
>
> In the weir of the former mill Of pliydamyae the boundary will move away
> from in the weir of the former mill Of pliydamyae the boundary will move
> away from river Piuza (Pimzha) Of khybeoya (silver), further 1.7 km in the
> general eastern-south- eastern direction upstream of the stream Of khybeoya
> (silver) to its source, find in 0.1 km to the north-north- West from the
> intersection of forest-management quarterly it cut, intersecting the motor
> road of Saatse- Pechora.
>
> Further boundary goes 0.7 km eastwards on the scaffolding, then 0.6 km in
> the southeastern direction on the scaffolding and swamp, 0.9 km in the
> northeastern direction along the axis of land-reclamation ditch and the
> forest swamp Suursoo (Grabilovo) and 0.2 km in the north-northwestern
> direction along the same swamp.
>
> Further boundary goes 1.3 km in the eastern-south- eastern direction along
> the forest swamp and the scaffolding, intersecting the network of
> land-reclamation ditches, 1.4 km in the general northeastern direction on
> the swampy scaffolding and the swamp, leaving the farmstead Of khingla on
> the Russian side, then 0.5 km in the eastern-south- eastern direction on
> the scaffolding to further boundary goes 1.3 km in the eastern-south-
> eastern direction along the forest swamp and the scaffolding, intersecting
> the network of land-reclamation ditches, 1.4 km in the general northeastern
> direction on the swampy scaffolding and the swamp, leaving the farmstead Of
> khingla
>
> From the weir the boundary goes 0.7 km in the northwestern direction along
> the forest road, leaving it on the Estonian side, then 0.8 km in
> eastern-north- eastern direction on the scaffolding, leaving sandy quarry
> on the Estonian side, and 0.8 km northwards on the scaffolding and edge of
> plowed land, intersecting motor road Saatse- Krupp.
>
> Further boundary goes 2.9 km in the general western direction on the
> scaffolding and the plowed land, going around from the south the gardening
> comradeship of "ceramics", leaving it on the Russian side, and from the
> north - village and the farmstead To perdaku, including farmstead To kaze,
> leaving them on the Estonian side, then 1 km in western-north- western
> direction on the scaffolding and 0.6 km northwards along the axis of
> land-reclamation ditch to further boundary goes 2.9 km in the general
> western direction on the scaffolding and the plowed land, going around from
> the south the gardening comradeship of "ceramics", From there it goes 0.2
> km in northwest, 0.4 km in southwest and 0.9 km in northwest directions
> along the axis of land-reclamation ditches, on the scaffolding and the
> plowed land, approach the high-voltage line and go 0.8 km 20 m north of it
> on the scaffolding and the plowed land, leaving high-voltage line on the
> Estonian side, and farmstead fortification on the Russian side.
>
> Further boundary goes 0.5 km in the northwestern direction along the motor
> road To vyarska-Saatse, leaving it on the Estonian side, 0.7 km northwards
> on the scaffolding, leaving the village Of lutepya on the Estonian side,
> 0.1 km in northeast, 0.6 km in western-north- west and 1.4 km in western
> directions on the scaffolding to the high-voltage line even 0.4 km in the
> western-north- western direction 20 m of the high-voltage line, leaving it
> on the Estonian side.
>
> From the high-voltage line the boundary goes 0.4 km in north-northeast,
> 0.8 km in north-northwest and 0.3 km in western-south- west directions on
> the scaffolding.
>
> Then boundary goes 1 km in the north-northwestern direction along the edge
> of forest and field and 0.5 km in the north-northeastern direction on the
> scaffolding, leaving the village Of verkhulitsa on the Estonian side, and
> the farmstead Of kostkova on the Russian side, then 1.3 km in the
> north-northwestern direction along the forest road, leaving it on the
> Estonian side, on the plowed land and the scaffolding, intersecting
> farmstead To toome of the village Of kostkova.
>
> Further boundary goes 1.8 km in the eastern-north- eastern direction on the
> swampy scaffolding and swamp, 1.3 km northwards, intersecting the stream Of
> kuuliska (Myasovitskiy), 0.3 km in west and 3.3 km in general
> north-northeast directions on the swamp to Kuleyskaya river.
>
> Then boundary goes 5.8 km on the middle Of kuleyskaya river in the general
> northwestern direction, leaving nameless island on the Russian side, it
> intersects the bridge across the river on its middle and, going around the
> outline of the peninsula in then boundary goes 5.8 km on the middle river
> Of kuleyskaya in the general northwestern direction, leaving nameless
> island on the Russian side, it intersects the bridge across the river on
> its middle and, going around the outline of the peninsula in lake Pikhkva
> (Pskov).
>
> From the point indicated the boundary goes 0.3 km southwards along the
> swamp, then 0.5 km upstream of nameless stream in the south-south- eastern
> direction, leaving the village Of podmotsa on the Estonian side, and
> village oaklings on the Russian side, and further 0.6 km in the
> western-south- western direction on the swamp with the insignificant
> fracture to the south to the country road between the Estonian village Of
> kremessova and the Russian village oaklings.
>
> From the country road the boundary goes 0.5 km southwards along the swamp
> and the meadow, then 0.5 km eastwards, further 0.4 km in south-south- west
> and 0.9 km in northwest directions along the swamp and plowed land to the
> coast from the country road the boundary goes 0.5 km southwards along the
> swamp and the meadow, then 0.5 km
>
> Further boundary goes 2.2 km in the northwestern direction on the lake
> between the Estonian shore and the Russian island Of kolpina to the point
> No.1 with the coordinates of 58° 00' 52 N, 27° 37' 02" E, then 1.8 km in
> the north-northwestern direction to the point No.2 with the coordinates of
> 58° 01' 48" N, 27° 36' 29" E, it turns to north-northeast and through 1.7
> km leaves into the point No.3 with the coordinates of 58° 02' 42" N, 27°
> 36' 51" E, further 1 km goes to the north-north-West and leaves into the
> point No.4 with the coordinates of 58° 03' 15 N, 27° 36' 51" E.
>
> From this point the boundary goes 5 km in the north-northeastern direction
> to the island old Mtezh to point No. 5 with the coordinates of 58° 05' 50"
> N, 27° 38' 06" E, then 3.5 km in the northwestern direction on on lake
> Lyammiyarv (warm) point No. 6 with the coordinates of 58° 07' 06"N, 27° 35'
> 26" E, further 11.3 km in the north-northwestern direction to point No. 7
> with the coordinates of 58° 12' 36"N, 27° 30' 30" E, then 1.7 km in the
> northwestern direction to point No. 8 with the coordinates of 58° 13' 16"N,
> 27° 29' 20" E, further 0.5 km in the northeastern direction to point No. 9
> with the coordinates of 58° 13' 29"N, 27° 29' 36" E, which is been located
> between the Estonian village Of mekhikoorma and the Russian village are
> stump, and 8.7 km northwards with the small deviation to the West to point
> No. 10 with the coordinates of 58° 18' 11"N, 27° 29' 25" E.
>
> Further boundary goes 9,3 km in the north-northeastern direction to
> Piyrissaar island, it leaves to lake Peypsi (Chudskoye), point No.11 with
> the coordinates of 58° 22' 39"N, 27° 33' 42" E, make turning to the
> north-north- West and through 30.2 km it leaves into point number 12 with
> the coordinates of 58° 38' 22"N, 27° 25' 42" E, further go 16.9 km in the
> north-northwestern direction to point No. 13 with the coordinates of 58°
> 47' 14"N, 27° 21' 33" E, then 27.2 km in the northeastern direction to
> point No. 14 with the coordinates of 58° 57' 22"N, 27° 42' 00" E, then turn
> towards the church of the village Of vasknarva and go approximately 3.7 km
> to the intersection at point No. 15 with the line of the entrance channel
> of the source of river Narva further goes 1.5 km on the fairway to the
> point, which is located on the intersection of the continuation of the axis
> of the guiding dam No.3 (northern) with the fairway.
>
> From the point indicated the boundary goes approximately 57.3 km in the
> general northern direction on the fairway of river Narva and the Narva
> reservoir, leaving The permiskyula islands, Suursaar and Vyaykesaar on the
> Estonian side, to the point, which is located on the middle of the concrete
> spill-way of Narva GES.
>
> From the weir the boundary goes 3,2 km first on the middle of dry
> riverbed, then along the river Narva, leaving g.Narvu with the island the
> Georg on the Estonian side, and g.Ivangorod on the Russian side,
> intersecting railroad and automobile bridges on their middle.
>
> From the automobile bridge the boundary goes 15 km on the fairway of river
> Narva, leaving Kannissaar island on the Estonian side, and island
> Petrovskiy on the Russian side, to the end point of the land section of
> boundary, which is located in the mouth of river Narva, which is the
> initial point of the line of the differentiation of sea spaces between the
> Estonian republic and the Russian Federation with the coordinates of 59°
> 28.300' N, 28° 02.695' E in the system of coordinates of 1942.
>
> The belonging of the islands, not indicated in the present description,
> will be determined in the course of demarcation works after the refinement
> of the fairway of river Narva and the passage of boundary according to the
> Narva reservoir.
>
> The description of the passage of boundary is comprised on the sheets of
> the topographic map of scale 1:50 000, published by the Russian by 11 state
> unitary enteprise Of "aerogeodeziya" in 1995.
>
> The coordinates of rotary points in the lake section are determined
> according to the map in the system of coordinates of 1942 indicated.
>
> Boundary described above is plotted on the delimitatsionnuyu map of scale
> 1:50 000, published in Estonian and the Russian language.
>
>
>
> [end of appendix]