Subject: Re: river condo authority joins denj follies
Date: Mar 17, 2005 @ 06:00
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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> King Charles II, not his brother the Duke, made Penn's originalPennsylvania
> boundary "twelve miles distance Northwards of New CastleTowne."
>separate deeds of
> When they did their 1682 deal, the Duke made Penn two
> feoffment for the Delaware lands. I don't have the wording infront of me now,
> but one included all land west of the left bank within thetwelve-mile circle,
> and the other included land west of the river from theresouthward. The first
> of these deeds accounts for the fragment of the circle on DENJat the north end
> of Artificial Island.denj follies
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@r...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:13 PM
> Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: river condo authority joins
>denj
>
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Lowell G. McManus [mailto:mcmanus71496@m...]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 4:02 PM
> >> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: river condo authority joins
> >> folliesthe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kevin Flynn asked:
> >>
> >> > What was the Duke of York's purpose, when conveying
> >> Three Lower Countiesthe
> >> > (Delaware) to Penn, in insisting that Penn's Pennsylvania
> >> not come within a
> >> > 12-mile radius of New Castle? I never quite understood
> >> purpose sinceQuakers?
> >> > Penn was to exercise authority over both. Were the
> >> inhabitants of what was
> >> > to become Delaware dela-wary (haha) of being ruled by
> >>New
> >> In 1651, Peter Stuyvesant established Fort Casimir (now
> >> Castle) for thereceived
> >> Dutch West India Company. In 1664, the Duke of York
> >> the lands lost byDelaware.
> >> the Dutch, lying now in New York, New Jersey, and
> >> In 1681, Charles IIthat
> >> granted Pennsylvania to William Penn, describing it such
> >> "twelve milesin the
> >> distance Northwards of New Castle Towne" would remain
> >> possession of theDelaware,
> >> Duke. In 1682, Penn, needing an outlet to the sea via the
> >> Delaware River,
> >> bargained with the Duke for the land now comprising
> >> which became thegranted
> >> "Lower Counties" of Pennsylvania. The Delaware people,
> >> however, were indeed
> >> wary of Quaker rule, felt overshadowed by Philadelphia, and
> >> felt under-protected
> >> from both pirates and Lord Baltimore. In 1701, Penn
> >> a charter for aassembly
> >> separate government for the Lower Counties, and its
> >> first met in 1704the
> >> to make its laws. The "Government of the counties of New
> >> Castle, Kent, and
> >> Sussex, upon Delaware" still reported to the Pennsylvania
> >> governor, but not to
> >> the Pennsylvania assembly. Only in 1776 did Delaware cut
> >> cord when itsState."
> >> people adopted a revolutionary constitution for "Delaware
> >>to be "twelve miles
> >> Lowell G. McManus
> >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> > Hmmmm. If the Duke established that Penn's boundary was
> > distance Northwards of New Castle Towne," then what is thebasis for
> > broadening that DEPA line around in an arc to affect NJ atall? The Duke
> > didn't also say "12 miles southward as well," did he? I dorecall reading
> > something once from the DE archives that extended DEsovereignty to the left
> > bank or Jersey shoreline, but don't remember the logicalbasis for it.