Subject: Re: river condo authority joins denj follies<br/>
Date: Mar 17, 2005 @ 01:16<br/>
Author: aletheiak (&quot;aletheiak&quot; &lt;aletheiak@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1148251946">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;aletheiak&quot; <br/>
&lt;aletheiak@y...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; kevin<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; Does anyone know whether the demarcation between East<br/>
&gt; &gt; Jersey and West Jersey was ever monumented on the <br/>
&gt; ground?<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; well <br/>
&gt; monumented or marked on the ground <br/>
&gt; is what demarcation generally means<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; but yes<br/>
&gt; to answer the excellent question you must have meant <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; the delineation agreed to in the 1676 so called quintipartite <br/>
 </span></blockquote>deed <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; was actually marked in this case in 1687<br/>
&gt; tho only part of the way<br/>
&gt; per<br/>
&gt; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.njarchives.org/links/pdf/proprietors.pdf">http://www.njarchives.org/links/pdf/proprietors.pdf</a><br/>
&gt; especially pp 9&10<br/>
&gt; where dig these crazy but true maps<br/>
&gt; which indicate <br/>
&gt; among other fascinating things <br/>
&gt; that west jersey originally had a mystery exclave<br/>
&gt; tho its border was never marked<br/>
&gt; nor in all probability was its existence even realized at the time<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; also you are probably aware that 5 modern county lines still <br/>
&gt; show traces of this old border<br/>
&gt; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/maps/new_jersey_map.html">http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/maps/new_jersey_map.html</a><br/>
&gt; on which a 1687 survey marker could conceivably yet be <br/>
&gt; recovered<br/>
&gt; especially near the right bank of the raritan where that survey is <br/>
&gt; known to have terminated<br/>
&gt; & also near the southeasternmost dune of long beach island<br/>
&gt; its point of origin <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; but good luck to anyone who tries<br/>
&gt; since they are both in such obviously fickle locations <br/>
&gt; & no other locations are known<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>however <br/>
i also just noticed at topozone that almost the entire 1687 line <br/>
from tidewater all the way to the raritan terminus<br/>
continues to function in some capacity or other as municipal <br/>
boundaries even where there are no longer county lines on it<br/>
<br/>
indeed the turnpoint on the burlington ocean county line appears <br/>
to be a possible quintimunicipal point today<br/>
& might make another interesting target point for a visit<br/>
<br/>
also the raritan terminus looks more promising than i first <br/>
supposed because there is a substantial bluff in that location<br/>
&<br/>
the tidewater end of this line on the topo points the way <br/>
at fairly close range <br/>
to the 1687 point of origin <br/>
on the long beach barrier island beyond the bay<br/>
& thus helps to narrow the search <br/>
for where to dig in the sand dunes<br/>
making it all a bit more exciting<br/>
but i think it would still be a fools errand<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt; also <br/>
&gt; if any marker from this survey is ever found<br/>
&gt; i think it might be the oldest known working rock in america </span></blockquote></div>