Subject: Re: TX proposes "free-for-all brawl" with NM over land
Date: Mar 14, 2005 @ 18:04
Author: Roger_Rowlett ("Roger_Rowlett" <roger.rowlett@...>)
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Sorry for the correction, I meant to say there is benchmark further
east of the tristate marker and closer to the meridian.

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Roger_Rowlett"
<roger.rowlett@a...> wrote:
>
> Kevin:
> The Oklahoma panhandle is more or less the 103rd meredian (although
> the tristate marker is off by a few feet as Altheia noted). The
> photos on my page are from a trip with Jack Parsell taken during
the
> 2002 Highpointers Convention. There's a whole bunch of benchmarks
> nearby (including one I believe further west at the meredian). I
> should have taken more pictures but I didn't realize how
interesting
> this topic would become. This topic may have been discussed in
this
> group earlier but I couldn't easily find it since Yahoo has limited
> the search capability.
>
> Roger.
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Flynn, Kevin" <flynnk@r...>
> wrote:
> > The reason nmtx then turns east at the northern line of tx for
> three miles
> > until it reaches the ok n/s line is that north of tx, the 103rd
> meridian is
> > the ok panhandle west line. Yes?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Lowell G. McManus [mailto:mcmanus71496@m...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:31 PM
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: TX proposes "free-for-all
brawl"
> with
> > > NM over land
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > By even considering any suit on this issue, New Mexico is
> > > engaging in a total
> > > waste of time, money, and breath. The reasons go far beyond
> > > the doctrine that
> > > long-unchallenged boundaries usually stand.
> > >
> > > The State of Texas sold the land west and north of its
> > > current boundaries to the
> > > United States in 1850, and surveys were done by John H. Clark
> > > in 1859 and 1860.
> > > His work was officially accepted by both Texas and the feds.
> > > Since that was
> > > long before the existence of New Mexico, that settles it.
> > > Furthermore, a joint
> > > resolution of the Congress dated February 16, 1911,
> > > proclaimed "these boundary
> > > lines as run and marked by John H. Clark in 1859-60 shall
> > > remain the true
> > > boundary lines of Texas and New Mexico." Another joint
> > > resolution of August 21,
> > > 1911, required the proposed state of New Mexico to accept these
> Texas
> > > boundaries. When New Mexico's statehood was effective
> > > January 6, 1912, it got
> > > the land to which it was entitled. The federal government
> > > had no land east and
> > > south of Clark's lines to give it.
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Roger_Rowlett" <roger.rowlett@a...>
> > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 9:40 PM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: TX proposes "free-for-all brawl"
> > > with NM over land
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have an article with several links on my americasroof
> > > blog on this:
> > > >
> > > http://americasroof.com/wp/archives/2005/03/13/new-mexico-sues-
> texas/
> > > >
> > > > The upshot is that New Mexico's own fiscal analysis of this
> bill to
> > > > claim land 3 miles east of the current border to the 103rd
> meridian
> > > > would probably be considered frivolous since the Courts have
> ruled
> > > > that if a state border goes unchallenged for "a long course
> > > of years"
> > > > then it becomes the defacto border. Texas permitted New
Mexico
> to
> > > > enter the Union in 1912 on condition of dropping the claim.
> > > > Ironically though the Oklahoma, New Mexico, Texas tripoint
> > > jogs in to
> > > > the meridian.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > >> The Commissioner of the General Land Office of the State of
> Texas
> > > > has proposed a
> > > >> "free-for-all brawl" between the Senates of the two states
> over the
> > > > lost land
> > > >> that New Mexico is griping about.
> > > >>
> > > >> See the third of three subtopics in the article at
> > > >> http://tinyurl.com/6mb7d .
> > > >>
> > > >> Lowell G. McManus
> > > >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > >
> > > >
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