I like the suggestion on the web page that the provision was written into the 1948 boundary convention to guarantee the long-established access to this Liechtenstein spring by the neighboring Swiss cows. Since the spring is located just meters from the boundary, and we are talking about access from Switzerland, it would hardly constitute an enclave, but something more like an easement.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA

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From: chris schulz

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 11:22 AM

Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Swiss enclaves in Liechtenstein and Suvarov?

hi,

you can find a little more about suworow at www.home.pages.at/maxifant/Frames/suworow.htm

and i suppose, the other little thing is a well, close to the li-ch border on li territory, where switzerland has territorial rights.

you will find information at www.homepages.at/maxifant/Frames/st-kathrin.htm

im sorry to tell, that its all (like all the stuff on my page www.enklave.de.vu) in german.

there is some more information about the well, that has been found by wolfgang schaub. maybe he wants to tell about it. (short summary: no one really knew about the place and wolfgang found the real place by checking an old map).

regards, chris

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From: aletheiak

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 2:58 AM

Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Swiss enclaves in Liechtenstein and Suvarov?

welcome oystein nice finds & the smaller ones are news to us here anyway but for that reason & also just because they are so small it seems likely that they are not the same sort of territorial enclaves as busingen & campione are but more likely enjoy a special extraterritorial status such as embassies have or else some other special but less than sovereign status for we too have encountered a small handful of such special cases in various places around the world each having some specific unique purpose or circumstance often ceremonial or symbolic but sometimes legal too in the case of this russian parcel i see there is a monument to general suvarov in gotthard pass so perhaps just it & the surrounding plot of ground are accorded some special honorary status for some historical reason also we have found that as fine a resource as wikipedia usually is we still cant take everything in it at face value but you certainly have stirred up some curiosity about these finds at least until they are fully identified & settled & i am glad you found us too --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Øystein Hagerup" <oysteinha@v...> wrote: > Hi everybody. > > I came across some curiousities the other day while reading the Wikipedia > entry for Switzerland: ([ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland > ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland) > > There I read: > "Furthermore, three exclaves exist within Switzerland. The town of > Büsingen is territory of Germany, the town of Campione d'Italia is > territory of Italy and the about 24 m2 ground of the memorial to General > Suvorov's crossing of the Alps (1799) along the Gotthard road are Russian > territory. Switzerland itself holds a few m2 enclave in Liechtenstein." > > These were unknown to me, and spurred a search for more information. (In > which I discoverend many intriguing things about enclaves, borders - and > this place. > > But I have still not come across any information on this Liechtenstein > situation, and not much to clear up this Suvorov situation either. So I > try here... > > Mvh > Øystein Hagerup