nice observations all
& i can even underscore your main point with this report of a wet
njnypa visit too
tho the underwater photo has been lost
http://egroups.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/7647
& my dictionary also gives this word history under trivial
a trivium was a meeting place of 3 roads
especially as a place of public resort
& the publicness of such a place also gave the word a pejorative
sense as in the english phrase
the gutter
the original word trivial thus meant
appropriate to the street corner
commonplace
vulgar
so my glib claim that trivial just meant 3way
& my appropriation of this supposed meaning to tripointing
really needs to be corrected or at least qualified to that extent
boundary trifinia are not intrinsically nor necessarily trivial at all
rather it is primarily street corners that are trivial
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "nj55er"
<spookymike@a...> wrote:
>
> Mike: See my comments below regarding dry/wet status of NJ
triples,
> and further below regarding triviality.
>
> Also, I count 28 tri-county points shared with NY, DE, or PA,
which
> includes the NJ-NY-PA and NJ-DE-PA points. Of those, only the
> Sussex(NJ)-Pike(PA)-Orange(NY)[tri-state point],
> Passaic-Sussex-Orange(NY) and
Passaic-Orange(NY)-Rockland(NY) points
> are definitely dry. Bergen-Passaic-Rockland(NY) appears to be
wet, but
> a near miss, and Hudson-Union-Richmond(NY) appears to be
dry, but is
> very close to being wet. Considering New Jersey is essentially
a
> peninsula, solidly connected to the "mainland" only along the
northern
> border with New York, all this "wetness" is not surprising.
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos
<aletheiak@y...>
> wrote:
> > on closer examination the nj tricounty picture does
> > indeed look both 22ish & exceedingly moist
> > http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/maps/new_jersey_map.html
> > with topozone appearing to indicate the following
> > abc aka atbuca moist presumably ***No, truly dry, but in a
very
> moist area***
> > atbuoc wet
> > atcacu wet tho bridged
> > atcagl wet
> > atcugl dry
> > beeshu wet tho bridged
> > beespa wet
> > bumemo wet
> > bumooc dry
> > cuglsa wet
> > eshuun wet
> > esmopa wet
> > esmoun wet ***Yes, but bridged***
> > humoso wet
> > humowa wet
> > mehuso dry
> > memimo dry
> > memiso wet ***Yes, but bridged***
> > misoun wet tho bridged
> > mopasu wet
> > mosoun wet
> > mosuwa wet
> >
> > so it seems only 4 out of 22 are totally dry
> > remarkably
> > tho perhaps as many as 8 could pass for dry
> > thanx to overpasses etc
> >
> > but clearly you are well on your way in any case
> >
> > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "nj55er"
> > > <spookymike@a...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> > > <aletheiak@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > nice going mike
> > > > > very fresh report & good to hear from you
> > > > > our first nj tricounty point too
> > > > >
> > > > > er
> > > > > is that 1 down & 21 to go
> > > >
> > > > ****** Actually, have done two other south Jersey
> > > tri-county
> > > points
> > > > in recent weeks, but both are at road junctions
> > > with no
> > > markings other
> > > > than municipality "welcome to..." signs and
> > > pavement
> > > changes. At some
> > > > point, I'll report those and other trivial points
> > > just for the record.
> > > >
> > > > Mike ************
> > >
> > > thanx
> > > wonderful
> > > & you must know the word trivial just means 3way
>
> [[[[[[Mike S. comment: Touche', Mike. Also note that a
three-way
> road junction is defined as a trivium. Much more elegant than
> "T-intersection."]]]]]]]]
> > > so it simply couldnt be more expressive of what we
> > > do here at bp
> > > & so for that reason & also as a natural born nova
> > > cesarian i will
> > > very much look forward to all your further reports
> > > of these
> > > & am exceedingly pleased that you my namesake &
> > > doppelganger are indeed the reigning multipointing
> > > king of the
> > > place
> > >
> > > btw i do still get a preliminary count of 22
> > > of which the great majority look far wetter than abc
> > >
> > > on my admittedly not well informed assessment
> > > but my guess is that with these 3 already reported
> > > you may
> > > already own the better part of dry new jersey
> > > tricountypointdom
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> > > spookymike@a...
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > I was in the field Saturday, 2/26, to visit
> > > the
> > > > > Atlantic-Burlington-Camden
> > > > > > County, NJ, trifinium (ABC). This is one of
> > > the very few NJ
> > > > > tri-county points
> > > > > > shown on topo maps as being marked. URL:
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=39.7297&lon=-74.7367&
> > > > > size=m
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem with visiting ABC is the swampy
> > > terrain. I had
> > > > > unsuccessfully
> > > > > > attempted it directly from US 206 at the
> > > Atlantic-Burlington
> > > line
> > > > > a couple of
> > > > > > years ago, but without wading boots, that
> > > approach is a
> > > > > nightmare. This time I
> > > > > > parked off US 206 about 0.6 miles north of the
> > > AB line,
> > > where a
> > > > > long-abandoned
> > > > > > railroad track crosses the highway. Hike the
> > > dirt road
> > > > > southwest along the
> > > > > > overgrown track to a large clearing on the
> > > left (south) side.
> > > > > GPS places this
> > > > > > clearing about 300 feet before the unmarked BC
> > > line. You
> > > are
> > > > > now prety much
> > > > > > due north of the trifinium. Use the clearing
> > > to gain some
> > > > > distance, then
> > > > > > either follow your GPS or compass toward the
> > > trifinium. I
> > > had
> > > > > to cross three
> > > > > > brooks along the way, but kept my feet fairly
> > > dry by stepping
> > > on
> > > > > clumps of
> > > > > > vegetation to get across. The rest of the
> > > area was very
> > > > > overgrown, but passable and
> > > > > > fairly dry. When GPS put me about 90 feet
> > > from the marker,
> > > I
> > > > > noticed a fairly
> > > > > > substantial clearing, and at the edge of same
> > > there was
> > > the
> > > > > marker. It is a
> > > > > > brass disk, set in a six inch diameter,
> > > circular concrete
> > > base
> > > > > about six inches
> > > > > > high. The disk is labeled "county line" and
> > > shows the three
> > > > > county lines
> > > > > > with the county names in the appropriate
> > > places. It's dated
> > > > > 1937, with spaces
> > > > > > for elevation and marker number that are
> > > blank. I did not
> > > see a
> > > > > speck of
> > > > > > litter, and would have to think this marker
> > > gets very little
> > > > > visitation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Finding this marker with only a compass and no
> > > GPS
> > > would be
> > > > > a daunting
> > > > > > challenge. In summer this area is a sea of
> > > ticks and other
> > > > > nasty critters, and the
> > > > > > underbrush would be brutal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Schwartz
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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