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--- "Lowell G. McManus" <
mcmanus71496@...> wrote:
> I know that by "easternmost" and "westernmost," you
> (both Roger and Mike) are
> referring to the most highly numbered east and west
> longitudes
zzzzz
aha
then you may only be dreaming we are asleep
so try pinching yourself first
> , but that is an
> extremely arbitrary and unnatural use of these
> terms.
hahaha
well excuuuuuse us
at the same time
it is the most common & indeed practically universal
use
> Wake up! The world is round, and its hemispheres
> join seamlessly! (I do not
> seriously doubt that you already know these facts.)
hahahahaha
then you
m u s t
only be dreaming we are asleep
> Do you consider an Aleutian
> island that lies a few miles WEST of the 180th
> meridian to be EAST of another
> Aleutian Island that lies EAST of the same meridian.
well yes & indeed we do know & consider from the data
we have developed below that semisopochnoi lies about
359 degrees east of amatignak
& thus tells the truth about 1 degree west of it too
hahahahaha
> I don't!
hahaha
well but as you say
the world is round
so you must be dreaming this about face to ignore the
other way round entirely now
> When hunting the
> easternmost and westernmost points in the USA,
> Russia, or whatever place, I'd
> measure from the center of that place.
well if you were still awake for 16646
then you are indeed only dreaming now also that we
wouldnt measure that way too
if thats your point
for indeed we did measure that way first of all
> I'd only
> measure from Greenwich if I
> were hunting the extreme points of Greenwich.
wow
fascinating
hahahahaha
er
well then why arent you doing it already
& what are they
that should be a cake walk of a sleep walk
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:51 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Russia Extremes (and
> relation to 180 Meridien)
>
>
>
>
> the map at the end of this official but as yet
> unratified treaty
> http://russia.shaps.hawaii.edu/fp/us/agree.html
> gives west longitude 168deg 58min 37sec as wet rue
> aka the easternmost extremity of russian territorial
> waters
> but it is based on a fully ratified 1867 treaty
> so i presume it is correct & effective
>
> that is absolute rue too
>
> & dry rue
> aka the easternmost point of dry land in russia
> is about 1500 meters west of that
> on the easternmost point of big diomede island
>
> but i could only approximate the longitude for that
> if you still want it anyway
>
> & please see 1 insert below
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "Roger_Rowlett"
> <roger.rowlett@a...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm a lurker in this group.
> >
> > But I was curious if anybody has the exact
> coordinates for the
> > geographic extremes for Russia since it straddles
> the 180
> Meridien.
> >
> > The United States has "through the looking glass"
> extremes
> because
> > the Aleutians in Alaska straddle the Meridien (in
> which Alaska
> has
> > the North, East and West geographic extremes for
> the U.S.)
> >
> >
> > West Point on Amatignak Island at 179� 06' 31"
> west is
> considered
> > the extreme west point of the U.S.
> >
> > Pochnoi Point on Semisopochnoi Island has
> coordinates of
> 179� 46'
> > East is only 70 miles WEST of Amatignak but it
> gets the East
> > designation.
>
> again a distinction could be made between wet & dry
>
> the easternmost & westernmost points of the usa
> actually
> converge further
> if you mean to include the american territorial
> waters
> &or the american eezs
>
> technically the easternmost & westernmost points of
> the usa are
> both at 180 longitude
>
> just like the dry east & west russia extremes you
> mention below
>
> > And just to make things interesting the Aleutians
> continue
> another
> > 300 miles WEST to Cape Wrangell on Attu Island at
> 172� 54'
> East
> > Even though Attu Island is as far as you can go
> from right to left
> > on a map for both Alaska and the U.S. it doesn't
> count as any
> > extreme by our traditional ways of determining
> this.
> >
> > Presumably Russia would have similar looking glass
> coordinates
> > although perhaps not quite so dramatic since the
> 180
> meridien
> > crosses a big swath of Siberia (so the east/west
> Russia
> extremes
> > would be either side of it for its length). In
> most maps you
> > usually don't see this as they show the manually
> adjusted zig
> > zagging dateline.
> >
> > I was just curious to find the official
> coordinates on how far
> > Russia extends into the Western Hemisphere.
>
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