Subject: Re: GhTP: Italy-Trieste-Yugoslavia
Date: Feb 07, 2005 @ 21:54
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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yes
nice
& this fits everything we have previously seen
plus
i modified my demarcation guess here below to
1975 or later
as soon as i realized that is the year the actual de jure split did
occur
with the osimo treaty

so thats a lock

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Wolfgang Schaub"
<Wolfgang.Schaub@c...> wrote:
> Trieste "not actually split"? De jure perhaps so, de facto it was
very much
> split right from the beginning: Zone A developed in quite a
different
> fashion than Zone B.
>
> As I mentioned previously, on Monte Cocusso (Kokos<caron>) there
are border markers
> numbered 79-28, 79-25, 79-23, 79-22 (from South to North),
which suggestes
> they have been set in 1979. The numbering follows the
sequence as shown in
> the map, only that the map is further South.
>
> Following WWII, there have been a number of demarcation
lines between Italy
> and Yugoslavia up for discussion at the 1947 Paris peace
conference. In
> August 1946 a military unit under Lieutenant J. B. Burrows
tried to survey
> and map the so-called "French line", for example. The reason
for this
> activity was that the peace conference had only a 1: 50,000
map available,
> so that the "French line" was vague. The section that Burrows
worked on
> reached from Tarvisio in the North down to Trieste in the South,
however it
> did not reach beyond the "Morgan line" in the yugoslavian
occupied zone,
> i.e. not firther to the South and East. Slowenian farmers wives
often came
> across the fields and threw stones at Burrows' men in order to
dispel them.
> Once the stones hit a Russian member of Burrows' party and
struck him, so
> that he lost his consciousness. When "successful" the farmers
wives removed
> the marker poles so that finally the demarcation could not be
carried to a
> presentable end.
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
> Von: aletheiak [mailto:aletheiak@y...]
> Gesendet: Montag, 7. Februar 2005 00:24
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] Re: GhTP: Italy-Trieste-Yugoslavia
>
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > Attach 1:50 000 topo map of FTITYU.
> >
> > As far as I can work out from other maps, the tp must have
> been at the big bend between marker 65 and 66.
> >
> > * Did they renumber after Trieste was split
> > * Was the border never marked?
> > * Why isn't there a marker there (with a full number)?
> >
> > Jesper
>
> remember
> trieste was not actually split
> but was just an abortive condo
> or supposedly neutral area
> that never actually came into being as such
>
> my guess is that these markers are just itsi
> or rather ityu originally
> 1954 or later