ok but then why would these countries want to reassure
their peoples that something will not be done to them
here on kzru now that has never been done to them here
on kzru before in any case & that we too had never
heard nor dreamt of til now
whether on kzru or anywhere else
except for this impression you are reporting you have
that it was commonplace
--- "Lowell G. McManus" <
mcmanus71496@...> wrote:
> I don't mean to imply that this intrasoviet border
> was plowed during Soviet
> times, but rather now that the two post-Soviet
> nations are talking demarcation,
> they want to reassure their peoples that it would
> not become a "broken
> border"--that neither side would be doing any
> plowing.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 11:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: KZRU
>
>
> >
> > well it sure sounds crazy enough to be true
> > even if still hard to imagine on an intrasoviet
> border
> >
> > such as this one was
> >
> > but if such a practice is or was as widespread as
> you
> > believe
> > even on extrasoviet &or extracommie borders
> > then i imagine it must have left some retrievable
> > impression somewhere as well
> > in some images or words more indicative than we
> have
> > yet seen here
> >
> > --- "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It was my impression that "broken borders"
> referred
> >> to those with broken or
> >> plowed ground--as was common on many iron-curtain
> >> frontiers as a means of
> >> detecting unauthorized crossing.
> >>
> >> Lowell G. McManus
> >> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
> >> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:21 PM
> >> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: KZRU
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper
> >> Nielsen"
> >> > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
http://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=5314235&s
> >> > tartrow=1&date=2005-01-17&do_alert=0
> >> >> "There has been much talk about the issue, but
> we
> >> are
> >> > discussing delimitation, not demarcation. There
> >> will be no
> >> > broken borders, while the border crossing
> >> arrangements will be
> >> > preserved for Russian and Kazakh citizens,"
> said
> >> Mr
> >> > Nazarbayev."
> >> >>
> >> >> What is broken borders?
> >> >
> >> > given the awkwardness of the overall rendering
> >> into english
> >> > it is my guess that the translator may have
> goofed
> >> slightly here
> >> > & should have said unsettled or unfixed rather
> >> than broken
> >> >
> >> > like maybe in russian the ideas of unfixed &
> not
> >> fixed & therefore
> >> > broken are rather more synonymous than in
> english
> >> >
> >> > more below
> >> >
> >> >> Jesper
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: Jesper Nielsen
> >> >> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:44 PM
> >> >> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] KZRU
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Strange how the Kazahs (and perhaps the
> >> Russians)
> >> > associate demarction borders with ploughing.
> >> >
> >> > this still puzzles me too
> >> > but again maybe it is just a blown idiom
> >> > like say for a fallow margin or a clearcut
> strip
> >> > or something like that
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>
http://www.interfax.com/com?item=Kaz&pg=0&id=5784471&req=
> >> >>
> >> >> Is this really an open border?
> >> >
> >> > i cant reach this link any more
> >> > but why & how do you suppose it might not be
> open
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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