Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: KZRU
Date: Feb 01, 2005 @ 17:05
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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> It was my impression that "broken borders" referredhttp://en.rian.ru/rian/index.cfm?prd_id=160&msg_id=5314235&s
> to those with broken or
> plowed ground--as was common on many iron-curtain
> frontiers as a means of
> detecting unauthorized crossing.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 8:21 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: KZRU
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper
> Nielsen"
> > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> >>
> >
>
> > tartrow=1&date=2005-01-17&do_alert=0http://www.interfax.com/com?item=Kaz&pg=0&id=5784471&req=
> >> "There has been much talk about the issue, but we
> are
> > discussing delimitation, not demarcation. There
> will be no
> > broken borders, while the border crossing
> arrangements will be
> > preserved for Russian and Kazakh citizens," said
> Mr
> > Nazarbayev."
> >>
> >> What is broken borders?
> >
> > given the awkwardness of the overall rendering
> into english
> > it is my guess that the translator may have goofed
> slightly here
> > & should have said unsettled or unfixed rather
> than broken
> >
> > like maybe in russian the ideas of unfixed & not
> fixed & therefore
> > broken are rather more synonymous than in english
> >
> > more below
> >
> >> Jesper
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Jesper Nielsen
> >> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:44 PM
> >> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] KZRU
> >>
> >>
> >> Strange how the Kazahs (and perhaps the
> Russians)
> > associate demarction borders with ploughing.
> >
> > this still puzzles me too
> > but again maybe it is just a blown idiom
> > like say for a fallow margin or a clearcut strip
> > or something like that
> >
> >
>
> >>__________________________________
> >> Is this really an open border?
> >
> > i cant reach this link any more
> > but why & how do you suppose it might not be open
> >
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> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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