Subject: Re: alethejak
Date: Dec 22, 2004 @ 17:31
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Anton Zeilinger"
<anton_zeilinger@h...> wrote:
>
> Dear Mike,
>
> > > I usually don't complain
> > > about off-topic
> >
> > good because theres really no topic here at bp my friend
> >
> > we only used to have a topic
> > & it was multipointing
> >
> > indeed we used to be a multipointing society
> >
> > but by popular demand
> > & because we are still everyones land
> > we are now anything anyone likes
> > & we talk about anything you or anyone else likes
>
> Well, in my humble opinion this has to be differentiated a bit. I
> think most people - I would venture to say, the overwhelming
> majority, i.e. everybody but you - would like to allow discussions
> about other aspects of boundaries, as well.

your humble venture in saying this is actually producing an untruth
tho anton

i have always said that if you dont want to talk about multipointing
which was indeed our original & only actual topic ever at bp
then talk about whatever you do like

so i for one have always allowed & indeed encouraged you in talking
about whatever you like

& if what makes your heart sing is discussions about other aspects of
boundaries than multipointing
then it is simply not true that i would not like to allow discussions
about other aspects of boundaries as well

& your contrivance to try to make it seem so is simply wrong


nevertheless this obviously is not a call by me or by anyone else for
you to talk about what you dont like

& i realize some people actually do like to talk about what they dont
like
but doing that is actually sick
isnt it
as well as off topic at bp

Other, that is, than just
> multipoints. I do not see why we can't include discussions about
> enclaves, unusual boundaries, microstates et al. This obviously
> should not mean that we have no topic at all.

there is no reason why you cant include whatever you like besides
multipointing
but please dont reduce this active verb into a sedentary interest
like all the surrogate interests

the original topic was multipointing
not multipoints
if you dont mind

but our topic remains multipointing or whatever else you really do
like
so far as i am concerned

& you will have to include me in your we or it aint bp

for more than anywhere else on earth
bp is everyones land

& i for one will continue to be pleased to at least ask anyone who
brings anything they dont like here exactly why they like to do that

which is why i questioned you about that last exchange

> > & if you mean to say you dont like this discussion
> > or anything else for that matter
> > then just skip it
> >
> > thats right
> > quit reading it
> > a n d
> > dont mention it
> > because
> > what you dont like is definitely off topic here at bp
> >
> > & off taste as well
> >
> > by which you can know it
>
> Well, I think there is a difference between off-topic
conversations
> and those on illegal issues, that's all I wanted to state. If this
> strange conversation with Herr/Frau "deutsche_kilr" had continued,
> who knows where it would have lead?

exactly
we have no idea
until she returns
but this is the land of the free & the home of the brave
isnt it

& illegal in exactly which jurisdictions

which countries

which counties

do you really expect us to observe all the laws in the world here
hahahahahaha
hahahahahahaha
& not risk talking about breaking them

> I do not want to know about such
> activity, as this would make me ipso facto complicit which I
> obviously want to avoid.

then why create it
& out of thin air yet
you hilarious man

>
>
> > > conversations and regard
> > > more or less everything having to do with boundaries and
> > territorial
> > > questions as admissible for this list (not just multipoints).
> >
> > your sensibilities are acknowledged & appreciated
> >
> > but if you mean to admit the overwhelming majority of boundary &
> > territorial questions
> > which originate in & perpetuate various aspects of human
> wretchedness
> > as a few members sometimes apparently do
> > then i would like to know why you would like that
>
> I do not understand this question, please use clearer English!
> Proper punctuation often helps, by the way.

funny how communication breaks down at the most interesting points

my simple question for you is
why would you ever like to talk about any of the sad & boring things
connected with boundaries that are not connected with multipointing

why would you or anyone else ever want to go that far off topic

a topic which after all was only the pursuit of happiness
in multidimensional reality
wasnt it
when there actually was a topic

>
> > > But I think conversations about smuggling narcotics between
> > different
> > > jurisdictions should - if at all - best be taken somewhere
else,
> > > unless we want our e-mails checked by the FBI.
> >
> > but couldnt you & the fbi also see that this innocent child
> deutsche
> > kilr was just asking a silly question & has now probably felt
> > chastised & has left forever just like that dude from morocco who
> was
> > similarly misunderstood & discouraged from further participation
> >
> > & if you all will excuse my saying so
> > these young foolish & actually mobile people are some kinds of
> people
> > i for one would like to have more of at bp & in everyones land
> > not less of
>
> I do not think that anyone should regard drug smuggling
> as "innocent", not even questions about it. I do not see why we
need
> somebody like this on bp, I must admit.

i like variety & have no problem with freedom or novelty

so if you really mean to include me in we at bp
& if we really do need anything
then perhaps that is why
but i wouldnt put too fine a point on it

>
> > I for one do not want
> > > to be complicit in illegal activity and obviously disapprove of
> any
> > > such activity.
> >
> > obviously you are not complicit in any of these dumb laws nor in
> > anything about them
> >
> > you are too smart for that anton
> > & i have to call you on it
> >
> > so dont give it another thought if you like
> >
> > & pivot your creative power into whatever you do appreciate
>
> Obviously, I will not go into discussions about whether drug laws
are
> sensible or not, so I will take up your suggestion and will not
give
> this another thought.
>
> > > Thank you.
> >
> > the pleasure is mine
>
> Ditto.
> By the way - Mike, you yourself are very clever, too. Too clever,
in
> fact, for me to believe your not infrequent claims that you do not
> understand various postings by different bp for lack of clarity.
Why
> not be a bit more gracious, especially with those whose first
> language is not English?
>
> All the best & Merry Christmas,
>
> Anton
>
>
> PS: Btw, if, by calling yourself "aletheia kallos" you mean the
> phrase "beautiful truth" in Ancient Greek, may I correct your
> grammar? The spelling should be "aletheia kalle", as aletheia -
truth
> is feminine, and the feminine first person singular of the
adjective
> kallos is "kalle" (pronounced kuh-LAY).

then i must graciously correct your correction
as aletheia kallos does not mean beautiful truth
but beauty as well as truth

but thanx for this & for all you do
& all the best to you too