I must disagree as to the location of the eastern point of Europe. If the Ural Mountains make up part of the delimitation, the eastern point of Europe would be at a point on the drainage divide east of the head of the Malaya Usa River. This is in the far north of Russia, roughly between the towns of Khal'mer Yu (west of the divide) and Laborovaya (east of the divide). Search for "Khal'mer Yu" on Expedia.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA

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From: Jesper Nielsen

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:03 PM

Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] The easternmost point in Europe

To me a continent is an entirely physical, non political unit. And off course Europe is not really a continent, Euroasia is.

Anyway, my Polish road atlas has a nice Europe map at the back with a line showing the AS-EU boundary.

According to that map EUe should be here http://tinyurl.com/4f2lg, in the river at Bogetsey. Hard to tell where is it, S of Bogetsey or SE or Orsk.

I may have more info after seeing the film.

Jesper

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From: Wolfgang Schaub

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 9:48 PM

Subject: AW: [BoundaryPoint] The easternmost point in Europe

You touch an interesting question: Where are the eastern boundaries of Europe? How do we define Europe?

1) Geographically? Ural, Caucasus, Bosporus? And what in-between? Is Chechnia still Europe? Kalmykia?

2) By religion? Do we have one? Does it include all Russia to Wladiwostok?

3) By culture? Do we have one? A common one?

4) Politically? All members of the European council? All members of the EU?

5) Economically? The EURO zone? This would nicely exclude Denmark., an idea that is not to the liking of everybody.

6) Via soccer? Azerbaijan plays in the European championships - is it Europe?

7) By law?

Why does the coming EU constitution doesn't say where we begin and where we end?

As it appears today we leave the question open and invite every nation to join - the beginning of the end.

Wolfgang

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Von: Jesper Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@...]
Gesendet: Freitag, 12. November 2004 20:17
An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [BoundaryPoint] EUe

I am going to watch this movie with Dr. Lim. Peter Hering tomorrow:

http://www.strandfilm.com/Projekte/Die%20Mitte/sf_Mitte_engl.htm, moire links at http://www.strandfilm.com, and a nice picture of what is claimed to be eastern most point of Europe at :

http://www.strandfilm.com/Projekte/Die%20Mitte/MitteBilder02.htm

Jesper

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