Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] vernal ut re kearney ne Re: sidney ia
Date: Nov 02, 2004 @ 05:31
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:38 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] vernal ut re kearney ne Re: sidney ia
>
>
> good point
>
> so any empirical solution will likely yield not a single particular
> point
> but perhaps only a silly millimeter of truth
>
> but now that i have seen lowell take cone to the cleaners by
> exclusively textual means
> i think even more promising than any such empirical means
> or than the official cartographical means i also suggested last week
> would be finding all the pertinent texts
>
> because if we can do that for one prospective megapoint
> we ought to be able to do it for all of them
>
> or nearly all
> allowing for the unknown to enter again
>
>
> & in the meantime
> i am happy to report i plowed thru rabbit ears pass ok last night
> just me & the snow plows i mean
> & ate up a lot of gorgeous country in the dark & then by moonlight
> but have skirted most of both the snow & the cold
> having arrived in somewhat of a promised land
>
> more later
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael Kaufman
> <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > "say
> > by halving the empirical width of the road beds
> > diagonally across
> > the intersection
> > or by employing some other still more definitive test
> > if possible"
> > --> For the fractal people: A road bed is just as
> > fractal as a stream bed or shoreline.
> >
> > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > very interesting
> > > thanx
> > > & no need to be afraid so long as you dont blow
> > > reality too far out
> > > of proportion
> > > & even then no problem really either
> > > since even a revoked poetic license can easily be
> > > restored
> > >
> > >
> > > indeed the following q&a just came on line from
> > > multidimensional
> > > reality
> > > for today only
> > > so here it is again for posterity too
> > > as follows
> > >
> > >
> > > is it reality
> > > or is it not reality
> > >
> > > a l l
> > > things are reality
> > >
> > > even if only one is imagining it
> > > it is a reality in that the thought has been offered
> > >
> > > & someone who has the ability to translate that
> > > vibration will
> > > perceive it
> > >
> > > it must be fair to say that anything that can be
> > > perceived must be
> > > reality because as creators your reality depends
> > > upon what you are
> > > willing to imagine & allow
> > >
> > >
> > > end quote
> > >
> > >
> > > so maybe i was being little hard on those of you i
> > > asked to get real
> > > the other day
> > >
> > > it is just that for me
> > > the only reality worth trying for here is the
> > > multidimensional one
> > >
> > > & tho multipointing was the original focus of bp
> > > it is true that anything goes here now
> > > & anything at all lovely is indeed well appreciated
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > now
> > > back to the nitty gritty reality
> > > i was drawn to a particular quadricounty point
> > > probability here in
> > > nebraska yesterday
> > > namely butler polk seward york aka buposeyo
> > > situated just northeast of gresham
> > > because it looked like a near miss in my 17dollar
> > > delorme nebraska
> > > atlas
> > > & i was curious to see just how close of a near miss
> > > it was
> > >
> > > this atlas however has since then repeatedly
> > > demonstrated its
> > > complete inadequacy
> > > so luckily i stopped at a library & checked this
> > > megapoint out at
> > > topozone too before barging ahead
> > >
> > > & lo & behold
> > > usgs shows it not as a near miss at all but as a
> > > perfect road
> > > centerline cross
> > >
> > > er
> > > not to get too excited yet either tho
> > > since the usgs has long since demonstrated its
> > > inadequacy too
> > >
> > >
> > > but what was most interesting in the event was that
> > > each of the 4
> > > corners of this simple road intersection proved to
> > > have been
> > > signposted with its own pair of street names
> > > & the 8 names thus produced for these 2 humble dirt
> > > roads were all
> > > different
> > >
> > > yikes
> > > quite a scene
> > >
> > > this 4 signpost situation
> > > which is not unique
> > > for i have previously encountered it at several
> > > other midwestern
> > > megapoints
> > > finally impressed me this time as being quite
> > > significant
> > > & nearly sufficient proof for confirming a
> > > centerline intersection
> > > quadripoint
> > > as distinct from some pair of very near miss
> > > tripoints
> > >
> > > & it occurs to me that the only higher level of
> > > proof might be to
> > > find official roadmaps of all 4 counties agreeing to
> > > this point
> > >
> > >
> > > still a final difficulty may be encountered if you
> > > try to actually
> > > touch or mark the megaconjunction with your big toe
> > > there in the dust
> > >
> > > for then you see that the 4 convergent roads wiggle
> > > about quite a
> > > bit not only in terms of their bearings but also
> > > their widths
> > > & to such a degree that the square inch you thought
> > > you nailed with
> > > your toe
> > > might better be expressed as a square foot
> > > or even a square yard
> > >
> > > not that this is really a problem
> > >
> > > for i suppose the actual governing principle is that
> > > the convergent
> > > counties all maintain a half share of each road
> > > wherever & however it wiggles
> > > so the location of the truest available quadripoint
> > > can probably be
> > > more accurately determined than i actually did by
> > > eyeballing it
> > >
> > > say
> > > by halving the empirical width of the road beds
> > > diagonally across
> > > the intersection
> > > or by employing some other still more definitive
> > > test if possible
> > >
> > >
> > > & having resolved that nagging issue to my most
> > > complete
> > > satisfaction ever
> > > i am off next to one of my favorite points
> > > namely cone on cone
> > > or the northeast corner of colorado
> > > on the colorado nebraska state line
> > >
> > > there is some interesting bp history on this point
> > > which i will try
> > > to dig up on my next computer session
> > > after posting this much now