Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Sastavci enclave
Date: Oct 11, 2004 @ 05:09
Author: chris schulz ("chris schulz" <23568@...>)
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Okay, i see,
i thought it the way, dates are written in cental europe...
thanks, regards, chris 
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Kaufman
To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:51 AM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Sastavci enclave

Interesting yes, though it's from January, not June.

--- chris schulz <23568@...> wrote:

> Hm, maybe little old message from June 2004, but
> anyway interesting:
>
http://www.tfeagle.army.mil/tfeno/Feature_Story.asp?Article=75444
>
> regards, Chris
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Brendan Whyte
>   To: boundarypoint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:23 AM
>   Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Sastavci enclave
>
>
>   Just in from the Serbian embassy in Canberra.
>   Brendan
>
>
>   Questions about enclaves of Serbia and Montenegro
>
>
>               Agreement ON state borders between
> Serbia and Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina has
> not been signed yet, and the question of enclave
> Sastavci has not been answered. negotiations about
> confirmation of the state border are being done
> within the framework of International Diplomatic
> Commission for the state borders between Serbia and
> Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina, whose mission
> is to identified and confirm the state border, to
> describe it in a written form, draw the border on
> the required topographic maps and to prepare the
> proposals under the International Acts for
> confirmation of the border. Negotiations have
> started on 27 April 2001 in Belgrade and so far
> there had been 7 meetings. The last meeting of the
> International Diplomatic Commission was held in
> Belgrade on 25 June 2004.
>
>               During negotiations, Serbia and
> Montenegro has, on the basis of internationally,
> broadly accepted principles of border division,
> offered the proposal for the border to be drawn in
> the regions of municipalities of Priboj (Serbia and
> Montenegro) and Rudo (B i H), where by instead of
> using the ridge of the mountain Bic, to use the
> middle of the river Lim, from the delta of the river
> Uvca to the village of Sjeverin as a border. With
> this complex and functional proposal the road
> communication would be open on the left bank of the
> river and that would remove problem of cutting out
> 2/3 of the territory of  the municipality of Priboj
> with around 5000 people (villages of Kasidol,
> Batkovici, Sjeverin, Zabrdje, Zabrnjica,
> Hercegovacka Golesa, Pribojska Golesa, Bucje,
> Kaludjerovici, Socice and Krnjaca) from the centre
> of the municipality. From Priboj, to these villages,
> it is possible to come by using international road
> (former regional road) Priboj - Rudo, which is 9 km
> in length and passes over the territory that
> according to registrars' books in Rudo, belongs to
> Bosnia and Herzegovina and goes through enclave of
> Sastavci. The possibility of using second shortest
> road over the territory of Serbia and Montenegro
> would complicate the life and work of the
> population, as the road is in excess of 100km in
> length.
>
>               The question of enclave of Sastavci
> would be solved within this framework, as well as
> the solution of the question for the confirmation of
> the official state border as a whole. For the
> territory of enclave of Sastavci, that would
> territorially be transferred to Serbia and
> Montenegro, as well as any other changes, Serbia and
> Montenegro has expressed willingness to offer
> competent territorial compensation that are in
> interest of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
>
>               Moreover, in the proposal from Bosnia
> and Herzegovina, that generally insists for the
> state border to be confirmed by accepting the
> existing borders between municipalities of Serbia
> and Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina, states
> that the border in the region of enclave of Satavci
> (which is totally surrounded by the territory of
> municipality of Priboj, Serbia and Montenegro) is to
> be confirmed by not following municipality's border
> but by making a corridor over the territory of
> Serbia and Montenegro and connecting it with the
> territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
>
>               Proposals of both sides offer not to
> follow municipality border, that are also legal and
> in agreement with International Diplomatic
> Commission and with the Manual for the work of mixed
> group of experts for identification and confirmation
> of the state border. For the population of the
> enclave of Sastavci, the worst solution would be for
> the border to be confirmed along the already
> established municipalitys borders, while at the same
> time not if one of the solutions offered is
> accepted. If the worst solution is used, then road
> communication with their main municipality would be
> cut and the problems of transportation of
> agricultural produce, food, health care and other
> important aspects for population there would rise,
> and there will be a need to provide administration
> documents by paying required state tax in order to
> maintain living status.
>
>               During the formulation of its
> proposal, Serbia and Montenegro took into the
> consideration the facts from the region of enclave
> of Sastavci that were gathered on the ground.
>
>               Enclave of Sastavci is part of the
> village Medjurecja (municipality of Rudo, Bosnia and
> Herzegovina), with the area of 395 ha 83 a 57 m2.
> Due to the small area, it is impossible to show it
> on the maps that are smaller in proportion than
> 1:1,000.000. The enclave did not form during 1990's
> with any ethnic cleansing nor with the exchange of
> the territory as it is stated in the letter of Dr.
> Brendan Whyte from the University of Melbourne.
> Historic facts about the formation of the enclave on
> the territory of Serbia are not known, but among the
> population it is tied to the period at the end of
> XIX and beginning of XX century, when in that
> region, the Austro-Hungary and the Ottoman Empires
> where sharing the border, after the Congress of
> Berlin (1878) when the Austro-Hungary was allowed to
> annex Bosnia and Herzegovina. It is believed that,
> due to the ownership relations from that period, the
> enclave of Sastavci remained, after Ottomans
> retreated from Bosnia to the Raska region (Sandjak),
> tied to the Austro-Hungary administration. Later,
> with the automatic transfer already established
> administrative borders, enclave was left tied to the
> Bosnia and Herzegovina.
>
>               There are suggestions that during
> 1980's there were talks about possible solutions for
> this enclave, but the detailed proposal was probably
> left at the desk of one of the local politicians.
>
>               Majority of the population, over 70%
> are citizens of Serbia, their documents are issued
> in Serbia. In 1999 there were 75 households out of
> which 25 were Bosnian - Muslim households, and out
> of 270 people living there 135 were Bosnian Muslims.
>
>               All the vital infrastructure and
> systems in the enclave of Sastavci are tied to the
> municipality of Priboj and its financing and
> building was organised and done by the town of
> Priboj. Primary school "9 Maj" was build by the
> Republic of Serbia and education of students is done
> according to the plans and programs organised by the
> Ministry of Education of Serbia, who is also
> financing its operation. Ambulance in Sastavci is a
> part of the Medical Centre of Priboj, which is
> providing staff and finance, and it is paying all
> the work-related requirements to the Republic of
> Serbia. In Sastavci there is a unit of the Ministry
> of  the Interior and it has its own building.
> Telecommunication and postal services are done by
> "Telekom Uzice" which provides and maintains
> telephone connections. Supply of the electrical
> energy is done by Serbia. Majority of the high
> school students are studying in Priboj, and majority
> of the workforce is working in Priboj (F.A.P.)
> Although the requirement for working in the state
> institutions of Republic of Serbia is to have
> citizenship, there are two citizens of Bosnia and
> Herzegovina working in the state institutions.
>
>               On the other hand, the land is
> registered in the registrars' books of municipality
> of Rudo (BiH), where the population of Sastavci is
> paying its land tax. Citizens of Serbia are paying
> the tax on its business buildings (five buildings of
> recent construction) to the Bosnia and Herzegovina.
>
>               When it comes to the period of
> 1992-1995, there was no ethnic cleansing in
> Sastavci, Majority out of 10 families of Bosnians
> (around 10%), were, due to the closeness of the war
> activities, moved to Serbia (Priboj, Prijepolje,
> Sjenica, Novi Pazar). The reasons for leaving
> enclave of Sastavci for Serbia was due to the
> closeness and existence of the family ties in
> Serbia. A number of them have left for Bosnia and
> Herzegovina. During this migration there were no
> casualties. Migration of the Bosnian - Muslim
> population, above all due to economic reasons,
> happened before the collapse of the Federal
> Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia, mainly in
> direction of Gorazde and Sarajevo.
>
>               Four families, made of seven people,
> have returned to enclave of Sastavci and they are
> using their property (land). Those returned did not
> endure any police or judicial pressure from the
> Serbian side. The restored houses are mainly used as
> holiday and weekend houses by their owners. Large
> part of the young population from Sastavci, both
> Bosnian and Serbian alike, have left to live abroad,
> above all due to the economic reasons.
>
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