Subject: Re: dcmdvan & mdvawv retries continued<br/>
Date: Oct 02, 2004 @ 01:16<br/>
Author: aletheiak (&quot;aletheiak&quot; &lt;aletheiak@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-131355379">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;Lowell G. McManus&quot; <br/>
&lt;mcmanus71496@m...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; I&#39;m not sure which three you meant when you wrote:<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; &gt; & this without a single approval by the united states <br/>
 </span></blockquote>congress of<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; &gt; any of these 3 unwitting but effective border changes<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>oops<br/>
then maybe i was moving too fast too<br/>
<br/>
what i meant was <br/>
all of the 3 convergents to mdvawv<br/>
<br/>
 <br/>
all of which this vawv survey & its acceptance by at least 2 of the <br/>
3 parties has effectively changed <br/>
<br/>
contravening the judgments of 1877 & 1910<br/>
& restoring the terms of the 1632 charter<br/>
not only at this novel exceedingly high mdvawv position<br/>
but <br/>
by the precedents the survey & its acceptances established<br/>
however inadvertently yet still very effectively  <br/>
everywhere on potomac mdva & potomac mdwv <br/>
 <br/>
<br/>
& all 3 of these border changes <br/>
tho unconstitutional as well as extralegal<br/>
are still apparently legal & effective without congressional <br/>
approval <br/>
because <br/>
in the case of vawv <br/>
it was technically only an first survey & not a border change<br/>
& in the cases of mdva & mdwv <br/>
the restoration of the higher level is thus far at least only a matter <br/>
of continuing acquiescence & prescription by maryland<br/>
who <br/>
until this 1997 survey<br/>
really hadnt any stake in anything on the right bank for 87 years<br/>
<br/>
of course we may still hear from maryland<br/>
or a more rational survey may some day trump & cancel this <br/>
precedent<br/>
<br/>
but as of now<br/>
unless virginia & west virginia & i at least are mistaken<br/>
all 3 borders have quietly & subtly morphed since 1998<br/>
<br/>
& nobody but us beepers even suspects anything has changed<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
& the earlier congressional consents you mention below are of <br/>
course the standard that has been unwittingly deviated from here<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; ..but I should say that the Congress consented to the <br/>
 </span></blockquote>Black-Jenkins Award of<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; 1877 on March 3, 1879.  See <br/>
 </span></blockquote><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.virginiaplaces.org/pdf/mdvaappd.pdf">http://www.virginiaplaces.org/pdf/mdvaappd.pdf</a> .<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; The Compact of 1785 was made prior to the Constitution, and <br/>
 </span></blockquote>was never ratified<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; by the Confederation Congress, but the Supremes said in <br/>
 </span></blockquote>Wharton v. Wise at 153<br/>
<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt; U.S. 155 (1894) that no such ratification was needed.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Lowell G. McManus<br/>
&gt; Leesville, Louisiana, USA </span></blockquote></div>