Subject: Re: dcmdvan & mdvawv retries continued
Date: Sep 24, 2004 @ 06:04
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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> I'd love to be there, but I can't get away.extend VAWV to
>
> I think it's good to carry forward any and all notions of how to
> the tripoint. Sometimes, there's nothing like a personal on-sitelook to make
> the best solution obvious.courthouse land books of
>
> Are you aware that the 1997 survey is recorded in the
> both Loudoun and Jefferson counties?thanx
> continues on to the Maryland boundary. If so, your surveyor'smarker at the
> river's edge might not be intended as terminal, just the onlypractical place to
> put it. Of course, you probably covered all of this in yourconfabs with the
> surveyor.http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=4311741.00001324
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:49 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] dcmdvan & mdvawv retries continued
>
>
> >
> > so
> > to sum up & then proceed
> >
> > the best available & indeed authoritative positions
> > if not of these 2 tripoints themselves
> > then at least of the low water marks convergent upon
> > them
> > is as presented by usgs mapping
> >
> >
>
> >http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=4355975&e=26557
> >
> >
>
> >
> > so the geocoords need to be carefully lifted from the
> > paper copies of these topos
> > & then used as the primary gps targets
> > for the monument based alignments to then pan across &
> > home in on
> >
> > & we need to hope mike schwartz has a gps receiver
> >
> > or that someone who does also attends
> >
> > or can you confirm that right off mike
> >
> >
> > also
> > special to brian
> > can you confirm that the superfine coords you give for
> > these points at the corner corner
> > namely
> > dcmdvan
> > nlat 38d56m03s2 x wlong 77d07m12s6 nad27
> > &
> > mdvawv
> > nlat 39d19m16s1 x wlong 77d43m09s4 nad27
> > are the same ones you pulled from the paper topos
> > & that your tenths of seconds are as significant as
> > they appear to be
> >
> > as i recall
> > you took special care with all these at the time
> >
> > & i am inclined to base the tries directly upon them
> > since i already believe they are as right as can be
> > rather than bothering to check or redo your work
> >
> > but i would appreciate any confirmation
> >
> >
> >
> > & to continue
> >
> > the dcmdvan alignment will be straightforward &
> > attainable within centimeters if we find the marker
> >
> > as i still believe we will
> >
> > & nothing more needs to be said about it til we try it
> >
> >
> > but the mdvawv alignment is still unknown
> > & perhaps unknowable
> >
> > & we also dont know what authority we could possibly
> > consult that would be better than ourselves & our own
> > best judgments about it
> >
> > so far we have 4 choices for the bearing of the
> > tripointing stitch from the extant vawv terminus
> > each of which will produce a different line
> > all of them presumably of slightly different lengths
> > & each leading to a different putative tripoint
> > position
> >
> > but we should probably carry all of these forward
> > & be open to possible others as well
> >
> >
> > the bearing of the extant legal vawv terminal segment
> > is ne36d40m22s
> > & i believe it continues to be the leading candidate
> >
> > the bearing of a line running perpendicular to the
> > bank appears to be roughly ne10 degrees
> >
> > the bearing of a line running perpendicular to the
> > river center line appears to be roughly due north
> >
> > the bearing of a line running directly toward the
> > visible ridge continuation above the maryland bank
> > appears to be roughly nw10 degrees
> >
> >
> > & there are still a few more numbers i should be able
> > to crunch
> > so as to tie the topo based coords in with the survey
> > based coords
> >
> > & that should be revealing but will take a while
> >
> > so please stand by
> > &or chime in with anything else
> >
> >
> > of course all four stitch candidates will ultimately
> > head off into the white water in different directions
> >
> > but we could follow them at least to the edge of the
> > water & then project them mentally from there
> >
> > for the time being at least
> >
> >
> > both tries are still looking real for columbus week
> > give or take a few days
> >
> > any further additions corrections comments help
> > attendance etc etc would of course be appreciated
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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