will comment on all this soon when more time
--- aletheiak <
aletheiak@...> wrote:
> of course you are right
> & a spectacular catch it is
> tho any such perturbations as you describe in that
> particular area
> would be immediately sensed & noted by our local
> equipoise lab
> at ekalaka lake
>
>
> what i should have said tho is
> the multipoints presumptively continue to exist
> indefinitely
> so long as all their constituent
> state lines
> continue to exist
>
> for in the topology i am thinking of & trying to
> express
> it is not the states that really matter
> so much as it is the state lines
> aha
>
> & this realization only underscores the importance
> of our recent
> discovery
> that true multipointing is really nothing less than
> sexipointing
>
>
>
> & again you will probably understand the maths
> better than i
> but the impression i have is
> no state line can be subtracted if the tristate is
> to survive intact
> &
> only if a new state line were added to the
> convergence would the
> identity of the multipoint change
> for it would then become an octapoint
>
> is that correct
>
>
> like imagine az & nm used to be one parcel
> & then split apart so cleanly as to produce azconmut
>
> which btw is pretty much what actually happened
> allowing for anachronism
>
> but anyway
> as i see it now
> only something as extraordinary as that would now
> bust this
> scheme
> as duly modified with your help
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> Kaufman
> <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > Ok this makes sense about maybeclaves. But about
> the
> > tripoints - you're saying a multipoint can move
> around
> > but presumtively still exist as long as the
> > constituent states still exist. There is of
> course at
> > least a possibility that sometimes they will no
> longer
> > exist even if the constituent states do. Using
> > several states (U.S., secondary level) as an
> example,
> > Wyoming hypothetically could gain territory
> > northwards, enough so in order to eliminate the
> MTNDSD
> > tripoint. (Instead there would be a newly created
> > NDSDWY tripoint.) MT, ND, and SD would of course
> > still exist.
> >
> > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com,
> "aletheiak"
> > > <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > > > ok mike
> > > > this feels much better to me yet again
> > > >
> > > > thank you
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > & wouldnt you know i actually had to cut off
> the
> > > bottom of your
> > > > message again just now in order to add this
> > > comment on top
> > > >
> > > > i swear it
> > > >
> > > > so you have cosmically outstacked me now for
> the
> > > 3rd time
> > > > & i celebrate this attainment with you of your
> > > stacking hat trick &
> > > > authentic multiple prowess
> > > >
> > > > just as i celebrate & appreciate your
> > > acknowledgements of my
> > > > own extremities & enormities here below too
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > & i would answer your excellent new question
> as
> > > follows
> > > >
> > > > to avoid confusion as well as contention
> > > > i would simply qualify all claves &
> maybeclaves
> > > alike
> > > > by the year in which they were last heard from
> or
> > > reported
> > > >
> > > > thus amaz karki 2004
> > > >
> > > > & amaz tatlis 1978 or whatever
> > > >
> > > > etc
> > > >
> > > > so by 2005
> > > > if neither are heard from or reported again
> > > > say by the cia or the local schoolmaster
> > > > or anyone else remotely credible
> > > > karki becomes a maybeclave
> > > > but far less of a maybeclave than the tatlis
> now
> > > are
> > > >
> > > > & to indicate confirmed discontinuation
> > > > which is a different matter
> > > > we could give dates fore & aft
> > > >
> > > > but i have run out of
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael
> > > Kaufman
> > > > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Where would you write? Still needs more
> > > specificity
> > > > > in terms of addressing. Call it a postal
> > > expedition
> > > > > perhaps. There may be a real expedtion
> there in
> > > a
> > > > > couple of years.
> > > > > If anyone can outstack or outmessagecite it
> > > would be
> > > > > you. You have cited more messages than
> anyone
> > > else,
> > > > > along with creating more messages than
> anyone
> > > else,
> > > > > along with replying to your own messages
> more
> > > than
> > > > > anyone else.
> > > > > "i will simply offer & endeavor to answer
> > > frankly your
> > > > > any fair & simple question"
> > > > > Ok. By your reasoning, anyone could say
> that
> > > the
> > > > > other
> > > > > 4 exclaves are "maybeclaves" since they
> haven't
> > > > > been "heard from" since the date of the last
> map
> > > > > showing them. Would you call them
> maybeclaves
> > > as
> > > > > well? That is a fair and simple question.
> > >
> > > yes it is & please excuse the unavoidable
> > > interruption above
> > >
> > > & i have cut off the entire bottom of the
> message
> > > now
> > > so we have plenty of room to grow it again
> > >
> > > but first to return to your upper question
> > > which is also right on
> > > of where specifically i would write
> > >
> > > i dont know what the seat of government of tatli
> is
> > > but i do know azerbaijan uses rayons
> > > & i still need to check this
> > > but if tatli is in the vicinity of kazakh
> > > as i tentatively believe it is
> > > then the name of the rayon is most probably
> qazax
> > > & its rayon seat is most probably kazakh too
> > >
> > > but i will keep digging on this
> > > & on whether rayons have governors or whatever
> > > for it might be better to write to a known
> > > responsible individual
> > > rather than to some unknown office or generic
> place
> > > i completely agree
> > > if that is what you were getting at
> > >
> > >
> > > & back to the maybeclaves answer
> > >
> > > i wouldnt & dont put too fine a point on any of
> this
> > >
> > > of course a clave heard from much more recently
> is
> > > far more
> > > likely to still exist than a clave heard from
> much
> > > less recently
> > >
> > >
> > > interestingly
> > > this isnt quite the same situation as with
> > > multipoints
> > > which
> > > tho they may move about or get remonumented etc
> > > nevertheless they presumptively continue to
> exist
> > > indefinitely
> > > or at least as long as their constituent states
> > > continue to exist
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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