Subject: Re: Interesting geography in switzerland & My soliloquy
Date: Aug 19, 2004 @ 17:04
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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lovely
but to be sure
you guys need real texts now

maybe the swiss constitution or something refers to them

for there could well be some sense to this peculiar arrangement
that we just havent yet perceived or figured out

but otherwise & until we do
or better yet
until you actually source this
i think the best guess is
even the best of maps sometimes play such tricks

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
<smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> Just picking up on an old discussion here (Arif and Chris
discussed
> this strange border situation in Switzerland):
>
> The border between the cantons of Vaud (exclave of Avenches
and
> Cudrefin) and Bern at the Canal de la Broye (near La Sauge)
was put
> into question. It looked like the Vaud border followed the centre
> line of the canal, while the Bern border followed the north bank
of
> it, thus leaving the northern half of the canal to the canton of
> Fribourg/Freiburg. First it was thought that Fribourg/Freiburg
> continued all this way to the Neuchâtel lake, ending in a tiny
> triangle of land (with a bird watching tower) north of the mouth
of
> the Canal de la Broye, but then I found proof of that triangle
> belonging to Neuchâtel canton.
>
> Now I have visited the map site of Neuchâtel canton at
> http://www.ne.ch/ ( http://tinyurl.com/pzkd ), and although at a
> larger scale the situation is not very clear, at 1:50000 and
1:25000
> the border of Bern can be seen, running along the northern
bank. Now
> the interesting part is where Fribourg/Freiburg reaches
Neuchâtel.
> The Fribourg/Freiburg half of the canal is continuing another
400 m
> or so after reaching the CH2BEFRNE tripoint, up to the point
where
> the CH2FRNE border is turning towards the centre of the canal
(at
> this point in between the breakwaters on both sides of the
Canal de
> la Broye mouth into the Lac de Neuchâtel), towards the tripoint
> CH2FRNEVD.
>
> So this stretch of CH2BEVD boundary really doesn't exist; what
does
> exist is a tiny stretch of CH2FRNE.
>
> Peter
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
> <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> > It looks like the tiny area north of the Canal de la Broye, with
> the
> > Obs. Ornith. (bird observation spot), is part of the canton of
> > Neuchâtel! Cf. this decree by Neuchâtel canton:
> > http://minor3.ne.ch/RSN/ajour/dati/f/s/46121.htm (the link
seems to
> > be dead, but Google still keeps a cache, which you can reach
by
> > entering the url at Google). Look at art. 1, point 16. It looks
> like
> > being a part of Marin-Epagnier municipality. Cf. also
> > http://www.birdlife.ch/f/lasauge/lasauge_fanel.html .
> >
> > Peter S.
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Arif Samad
<fHoiberg@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > That's exactly the place I was talking about. Doesn't
> > > it look like half the river is a corridor for Fribourg
> > > which invalidates the Bern-Vaud border that looks like
> > > a reality in less detailed pictures. I am attaching a
> > > Vaud map which actually is even more confusing than
> > > your map (I just figured out how to get rid of the
> > > water layer which hid the border previously) along
> > > with a topo map slightly less detailed and to the west
> > > of yours. In my map, the boundary continues to be a
> > > corridor with a possible fragment of Vaud creating a
> > > ninth coastline plus a Vaud-Bern border. I will leave
> > > somebody else to figure out what exactly is going on.
> > > Thank you for your search of proofs of the 4-point.
> > > Arif
> > >
> > >
> > >
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