thanx eef
it doesnt look too terribly official
does it
no inscriptions evident
just sledge marks i think
of course the proof of the pudding
could begin with finding similar or preferably identical pipe
stems marking other baarle corners & turn points
so for starters
have you or has anyone ever seen anything else like this there
or what other kinds of corner markers have actually been seen
but in any case & probably better yet
the cadastral data are quite precise here
as i recall
as well as available
so another way to confirm the authenticity or at least the accuracy
of this marker
up to a point
would be to lay a high quality gps receiver on it & compare its
readings to the officially published geocoords
this may still not prove anything absolutely
but then we will at least learn for sure if we still have somewhere
to go here
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, <eefberns@g...> wrote:
> Attached a detail of Baarle H1-H2 (quadripoint)bordermarker,
being asked for. It seems an ordinary steel pipe. If this pipe has
any official status is unclear. If this is similar to the one Brendan
Whyte has seen, only he can tell.
>
>
> Vriendelijke groet, Eef Berns
>
> -----------------------
> websites:
> - de grenspalen van Nederland: www.grenspalen.nl
> - email-forum over grenspalen:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/grenspalen/
> - Ivn-Eindhoven: http://www.dse.nl/ivn
> - Passie voor wijn: www.wijnpassie.nl
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: aletheiak
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2004 7:25 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Baarle is wonderfull
>
>
> the reason i ask for as much detail as possible is that a
slightly
> previous visitor
> described the marker at that time as a stake pillar
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/1201
>
> so the pipe stem in your pic could well be a recent
replacement
> marker
>
> & thus the land owner who was introduced in that report
> if he is still present there
> might be able to tell us something more about the marker
>
> like
> especially
> whether it is indeed an official marker of the official
quadripoint
> & whether it was indeed changed as recently as it appears
> & if so why
>
> or whether it is perhaps just that an old ad hoc stake planted
by
> one farmer simply wore out & got replaced by his or a new
> farmers new ad hoc pipe
>
> which is to say
> by whatever was available & convenient for whoever just
noticed
> that the old best guessed folk marker had fallen over
> & so just fixed it too
> as best as he could guess & do in his turn
>
> & of course
> in terms of exactitude
> everything could depend upon the answer to these questions
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak"
> <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > beautiful border cross coverage eef
> >
> > do you know if there is a closeup of the h1h2 pipe stem
> >
> > or do you recall any further details or particulars of or about
it
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, <eefberns@g...>
> wrote:
> > > Yes, I made pictures of three Baarle-enclaves to the
south,
> > they're attached:
> > > - N8 with indication of the border, seen from south-west
> > > - H20 with indication of the border, seen from north
> > > - H19, seen from north-east, no border-indication but
> > consisting out part of the meadow left to the ditch & part of
the
> > wood in the background
> > >
> > > You might also surf to
> > > http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief/index.html
> > > with an item on Baarle (English version available),
including
> > maps, pictures of H22 & the Quadripoint H1-H2
> > >
> > >
> > > Vriendelijke groet, Eef Berns
> > >
> > > -----------------------
> > > websites:
> > > - de grenspalen van Nederland: www.grenspalen.nl
> > > - email-forum over grenspalen:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/grenspalen/
> > > - Ivn-Eindhoven: http://www.dse.nl/ivn
> > > - Passie voor wijn: www.wijnpassie.nl
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Petter Brabec
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:00 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Baarle is wonderfull
> > >
> > >
> > > When I looked in my road atlas of Belgium, I found
> additional
> > enclaves closer to the belgian border. Are there any pictures
of
> > those?
> > >
> > > Petter
> > >
> > > Jesper Nielsen <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > How many times do you cross the border going by rail
from
> > BE proper, passing Baarle, into NL proper: 9 times is my
> guess.
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jesper Nielsen
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 7:47 PM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Baarle is wonderfull
> > >
> > >
> > > It was just looking at the map Michael just sent the link
to:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.grenspalen.nl/archief/baarle-map%20met%20enclav
> > e-aanduidingen-center.jpg
> > >
> > > Isn't Baarle just wonderfull:
> > >
> > > Enclave H13+H14: Enclaves must cross in and out of
> > property boundaries
> > >
> > > Enclave H9: part of factory-looking building is enclave
> > >
> > > etc etc
> > >
> > > Can it be true nobody never did a full photo report???
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ny versjon av Yahoo! Messenger
> > > Nye ikoner og bakgrunner, webkamera med
superkvalitet
> og
> > dobbelt så morsom
> > >
> > >
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