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From: aletheiak

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 1:10 AM

Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Extraterritorial marker at Buesingen

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@y...> wrote: > > The recent discussion of a border marker on the > CH-bank at ATCHLIN made me take a second look at the > situation at Buesingen, which is similar in that the > southern border of the exclave coincides with the > thalweg of, as it were, the same river as at ATCHLIN. > > On the attachment you will notice that marker number 2 > of the Buesingen border is on the north bank of the > river Rhine. Actually it sits in the middle of the > lawn of a private garden, a fact that could no doubt > spawn another interesting discussion here on the > subject of privately "owned" border segments... :) there are several privately owned tristate points in the usa > Note marker 1A on the south bank of the river. This is > clearly intended to establish the border's trajectory > from the shore to the thalweg. right as recently mentioned this is common practice

WELL, THE EUROPEAN ONES YOU MENTIONED WAS PROVEN UNFOUNDED. I DIDN'T VERIFY THE ASIAN ONE YET. NO PROOF OF COMMON PRACTISE YET. > However, the thalweg principle is disputable here, > since there is a marker 1 more or less in the middle > of the river. Allegedly, this is a large block of rock > with an inscription on the flatish top face, which is > submerged a meter or so at low water table. Here is > food for another discussion on submerged or > underground bordermarkers, I suppose. (I know of at > least one other marker that is completely under the > surface of the earth, and a handful or so whose upper > face aligns with the ground.) there are several tristate markers etc in underground crypts beneath roadways in the usa & one buried directly in earth that needs to be dug up periodically & a few on large flat slabs or inset flush into natural rock etc also mats could you check your atchlin map attachment in the previous message it seems to be resisting email delivery & looks weird at gmane & i am still looking forward with interest to seeing it > > M > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail