Subject: Re: Central European Border Trip
Date: Jul 25, 2004 @ 17:36
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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thats fine

you have them

as i say
use all the steroids you want

but in my view each of these categories you prefer includes a
compromise or copout from a precision visit to an actual point

seeing & circling are qualitatively different from actually reaching
& touching

limiting reality to dry land is an imaginative indulgence

reasonably close for some would be just doing it on the internet

etc

so they all are or can be lies of a sort

& what you have there
qualitatively
is a comparatively huge bulls eye with a couple of comparatively
narrow outer rings around it
with not much real discrimination possible among them

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
<jesniel@i...> wrote:
> I would prefer to have these catagories:
>
> A. Visiting, touching, circling a dry tp monument
> B. Close dry spot near wet tripoint with no marking
> C. Reasonable close visit, but inaccessible due to danger etc.
>
> Jesper
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: aletheiak
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:41 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Central European Border Trip
>
>
> also please note
> in this olympic event
> the class of the try is considered irrelevant
>
> it is only the fact of the try that is counted
>
> if we kept track of classes too
> there would be many other events & standings
> & other medalists
>
> but i was trying to keep it as simple & singular as possible
> & especially not to challenge anyone for their bona fides
>
> in the event in which perfect visits to the precise tripoints is
> required
> all of the counts will of course have been much lower
>
> & i didnt want to get into all that hairsplitting for purposes of
this
> event
>
> it would be both tedious for the judges & demeaning to the
real
> heroes
>
> for in many cases
> as we have just seen with atchlin & bcidwa for example
> it is hard enough to split the hairs necessary to see &
describe
> what a perfect visit even requires
>
>
> so maybe just think of it as taking steroids
>
> everybody gets to take all the steroids they want in this event
> to get their scores as high as possible
>
>
> but of course precision tripointing is still a fact too
>
> the central fact
> i would say
>
> otherwise why bother with any of this
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > Now that we also will do a class a on ATCZDE, do I not go
past
> Rolf?
> >
> > Jesper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: aletheiak
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 5:39 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Central European Border Trip
> >
> >
> > right
> > so you will round out our elite half dozen to have eaten an
> entire
> > golf course of them
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Michael Kaufman
> > <mikekaufman79@y...> wrote:
> > > My count is at 14, and all 4 of the tripoints will be
> > > new for me (this is not true for Peter and Jesper).
> > >
> > > --- aletheiak <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper
> > > > Nielsen"
> > > > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > > > As Peter Hering announced in February, CEBT will
> > > > take place
> > > > in August, the 7th to 167th.
> > > > >
> > > > > Highlights will be Jungholz, ATCHLIS, ATCHLIN,
> > > > ATCHDE,
> > > > CSDDDE and ATCHIT.
> > > > >
> > > > > Other interesting places includes divided city of
> > > > Nova Gorica on
> > > > ITSI, divided railway station Bayerish Eisenstein
> > > > CZDE,
> > > > Campione de Italia CHIT and Samnaun (CHAT).
> > > > >
> > > > > Any special things we could be looking for (we
> > > > already have a
> > > > request for ATCHLIN), we will see what we can do.
> > > > It's not
> > > > always nice to come home and then realize we have
> > > > forgotten
> > > > something.
> > > >
> > > > you already have a request for atchlis too
> > > > in messages 13331 & 13246
> > > > but dont knock yourselves out
> > > >
> > > > & i would add now for atchde
> > > > a boatride with gps to the known geocoords of
> > > > equidistance
> > > > would produce a very respecable class b visit
> > > > & i would love to see a 360 panorama of the
> > > > lakeshores from
> > > > this truest available even if still hypothetical
> > > > tripoint position
> > > >
> > > > > It's a small group of four that includes Peter
> > > > Hering, Michael
> > > > Kaufman, Carsten Jørgensen (Danish border freak)
and
> > > > myself.
> > > >
> > > > fantastic
> > > > so that means peter should regain the world class
> > > > gold medal
> > > > at 27 tried
> > > > leaving rolf to share the silver medal with you
> > > > jesper at 26 tried
> > > > & doug with bronze all to himself at 25 tried
> > > >
> > > > with harry slipping to sole possession of fifth
> > > > place in the
> > > > standing with 24 tried
> > > > & mike closing hard in sixth place with i forget how
> > > > many tried
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jesper
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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