Subject: Re: Divided building (DEFR) near DEFRLU
Date: Jul 08, 2004 @ 16:10
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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> I think that the condominium is formed by the entire riverbetween
> Luxembourg and Germany, i.e. two stretches, limited by fourstraight
> lines across the river, and the respective river banks. A borderis
> normally first defined, then marked. The markers weretherefore
> placed after it was known where the border was. And thatborder was
> the river bank. Now it is a bit impractical to place bordermarkers
> half in the water, half on the land, and anyway, the border wasimportant
> formed by a natural linear feature, namely the river bank. Some
> border markers were placed, but only at more or less
> places, like bridges and confluences. And at the termini of thewitness
> condominia, of course. So these markers are bound to be
> markers. By the way, there are lots of examples of border riversthat
> have the border in the middle of the stream (mostly thethalweg),
> with border markers on both sides that equally don't mark theborder
> exactly.accurately,
>
> But there are markings that do mark the actual border
> nevertheless. For instance the round metal plates on bridgesand on
> the former customs house at the Keppeshausen bridgehead.But these
> are places where manmade features cross into thecondominium, and the
> border was probably already fixed at that time.are, I
>
> But the border stones alongside the Mosel, Sauer, and Our
> think, not exactly on the border, with the exception of theare
> binational tripoint markers north and south of Vianden. But they
> not on the tripoints DEDELULU - they are just on DELU.<jesniel@i...>
>
> Peter S.
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> wrote:disussed
> > It's a good observasion. I vaguely remember it being
> before, either on BP or at GCEBE.around
> >
> > Are all DELU-LU markers (and the binational marker(s)
> Vianden) just witness markers?tripoint
> >
> > There should be a similar map of the northern binational
> somwhere (or perhaps I can find it in my files). We couldn't findany
> southern binational tripoint markers at Vianden.to see
> >
> > Have anybody been close to the northern binational marker
> the inscription?DEFRLU
> >
> > Jesper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Michael Kaufman
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 4:45 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Divided building (DEFR) near
> >the
> >
> > If the condo border on the DE side is where the river meets
> > cement cliff-like sidewalls, then what about the LU side ofthe
> > river? The DELU-LU boder proceeds from the DELU-FR-LUtripoint
> andBut
> > then makes a turn to the right when it reaches a monument.
> thecondo
> > monument is on land. Does this mean some of the land is
> > territory? Or is the monument a witness marker for thetriline?