Subject: cninmm was Re: (unknown) etc<br/>
Date: Jun 17, 2004 @ 03:11<br/>
Author: aletheiak (&quot;aletheiak&quot; &lt;aletheiak@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1629638729">some corrections may be in order before continuing to stack this<br/>
<br/>
& fresh pointing is more fun than retesting our capacity anyway<br/>
<br/>
but first the present try in a nutshell thus far <br/>
before i tear it apart<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; the china india myanmar tripoint <br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt; for starters please consider the strange final paragraph on <br/>
 </span></blockquote>page <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; 10 here<br/>
&gt; <br/>
 </span></blockquote><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS042.pdf">http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS042.pdf</a><br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; to which i can add<br/>
&gt; that my best atlas shows about 100km of separation between <br/>
&gt; the extreme positions<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; & also<br/>
&gt; that i have the distinct impression that the ongoing cnin border <br/>
&gt; talks<br/>
&gt; having already disposed of tibet & sikkim on a quid pro quo <br/>
&gt; basis<br/>
&gt; are heading in the direction of recognizing the indian position <br/>
&gt; aka the the mcmahon line<br/>
&gt; here in arunachal pradesh<br/>
&gt; in exchange for recognizing the chinese line of control at aksai <br/>
&gt; chin in sinkiang<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; so i would guess that the northernmost of the 3 possible <br/>
 </span></blockquote>tripoint <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; positions mentioned by the ibs<br/>
&gt; situated in fact at a watershed trijunction just north of diphu <br/>
 </span></blockquote>pass<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; is by far the greatest probability<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>however<br/>
several choice details about the tripoint situation that are <br/>
mentioned in the following opinion piece contradict the above <br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://meaindia.nic.in/opinion/2002/04/18o01.htm">http://meaindia.nic.in/opinion/2002/04/18o01.htm</a><br/>
<br/>
also<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.gisdevelopment.net/news/viewn.asp?id=GIS:N_tszdlf">http://www.gisdevelopment.net/news/viewn.asp?id=GIS:N_tszdlf</a><br/>
ex<br/>
indicates a mapping uncertainty of 4 to 7 km<br/>
causing differing interpretations of the mcmahon line even within <br/>
the indian government<br/>
not to mention what the chinese think<br/>
<br/>
also noteworthy tho not really definitive is the fact that multimap <br/>
which is actually the best available map in this case<br/>
& in general getting better all the time btw<br/>
shows the inmm border crossing at diphu pass to be about 10 <br/>
km south of the tripoint<br/>
<br/>
& it also shows the summit of hkakabo razi on cnmm much <br/>
closer to the tripoint than the pass is shown<br/>
in fact <br/>
practically upon the tripoint<br/>
<br/>
whereas national geographics shows the same hkakabo razi <br/>
about 30 km from the tripoint<br/>
<br/>
so it appears hard to get much closer to the truth as of yet<br/>
<br/>
the main reason for this may be explained on pages 6 & 8 of<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS080.pdf">http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/IBS080.pdf</a><br/>
where it is stated that inmm follows the irrawaddy brahmaputra <br/>
watershed to its northern limit<br/>
just as it was stated in ibs42 hereabove that cnmm follows the <br/>
irrawaddy salween shed to its limit<br/>
<br/>
thus the exact location might well be the object of a sawanabori <br/>
of the irrawaddy or of one of its headstreams<br/>
<br/>
now this object point was apparently given provisionally in the <br/>
1967 inmm treaty <br/>
but its exact location was supposed to have been found & <br/>
marked by commissioners<br/>
<br/>
the task however does not appear to have been accomplished <br/>
as of 1995 at least <br/>
according to another site<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
in any case<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.avatravel.com/putao.htm">http://www.avatravel.com/putao.htm</a><br/>
purports to show hkakabo razi from a distance of about 100 km<br/>
so the horizon line includes cnmm all right<br/>
& the dip or gap at the left edge of the photo could be diphu pass<br/>
& thus the tripoint slightly to its right<br/>
but this is only a guess<br/>
<br/>
&<br/>
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.journeysmyanmar/com/images/highlights_hkakabo_r">http://www.journeysmyanmar/com/images/highlights_hkakabo_r</a><br/>
azi.jpg<br/>
focuses on the peak itself<br/>
<br/>
so either or both of these pix could conceivably be class d visits<br/>
& more likely the former than the latter<br/>
<br/>
but it is all just wishful thinking as long as the tripoint position <br/>
remains so uncertain<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
it is certainly the right general neighborhood <br/>
but apparently this is about all that can be said with confidence<br/>
since all 3 of the convergents are in need of a final tweak</div>