Subject: Re: Czech stones of all kinds
Date: Apr 03, 2004 @ 01:37
Author: Michael Kaufman ("Michael Kaufman" <mikekaufman79@...>)
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Yes, except of course CS on the atcsde stone. Unless someone tried
to get rid of the S for a short period of time until the new marker
was erected. (If the text says the photo was taken in 1992, then it
was just before the point changed from old CS to CZ.)

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Petter Brabec
<pete2784west@y...> wrote:
> Well, you are making some interesting statements. Some of them need
more elucidation, some of them need correction.
>
> Czechoslovakia, as a independent state did indeed get their border
settled first after the St. Germain peace aggreement (1919) with just
about every neighboring state. Their have been some some territorial
changes done by plebiscite into 1921.
> Most of the borderstones, set up on the frontier between
Czechoslovakia and their neighbors, have their origin in the period
1920-1922. These can be seen today, when taking a stroll on the very
border (from borderstone to borderstone). Prior to 1920 or 1918, that
is when "the kingdom of the Czech lands" still existed, the border of
the respective lands has not been marked by borderstones in any
definite standardized manner. There were, though, set up borderstones
on important locations, say by the main roads, tops of the mountains,
rivers, tripoints. Since the Austrian Empire has been a federation-
like state, the countries that made the Austrian Empire had their
borderstones between themselves.
> In 1920, Czechoslovakia had a "worm"-like shape, so the
borderstones set up then stretched far, all the way to the CS-PL-RO
tripoint (in existence between 1919-1939). Today, this point is
located on the ukrainian-romanian border. These stones still exist in
their original position, they are just not painted anymore.
> On these stones, on the Czechoslovakian side are the letters CS. C
stands for Czech, S stands for Slovakia. Not, Socialistic as you
assumed.
> When it comes to ATDECZ tripoint picture: the guy is sitting on the
top, his left leg is in Austria by the letter "Ö", his right leg is
in Bavaria (Germany) indicated by the letter "B", and his buttocks
are in the Czech republic indicated by the letter "C", but not seen
on the picture. The photograph is definitely taken from south.
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> Petter
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> udomet@g... wrote:
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> > http://platon.cbvk.cz/kniha/priloha/sonnl.php
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> > On stone are visible letters "ö" - österreich - Austria
> > "B" - Bohemia - Czech
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> I visited 2001-2003 often the border CZ-D (Bavaria and Saxony)
and made
> many pics and films.
>
> First since 1920 CZ and Ö to set borderstones in agreement
with state
> treaty of St.-Germain-en-Laye
> (to WW I). To 1918 was Bohemia a part of austrian empire
without
> borderstones.
> "B" is alwas the shortening of all borderstones for
Bavaria/Bayern
> along border CZ/D and A/D.
>
> Shortening for Czech was C or CR to 1948 (Ceska Republika)
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> CS off
1948
> (Ceskoslovenska Socialisticka Republica)
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> and now again C
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