Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Czech stones of all kinds
Date: Apr 02, 2004 @ 17:41
Author: Petter Brabec (=?iso-8859-1?q?Petter=20Brabec?= <pete2784west@...>)
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Well, you are making some interesting statements. Some of them need more elucidation, some of them need correction.
 
Czechoslovakia, as a independent state did indeed get their border settled first after the St. Germain peace aggreement (1919) with just about every neighboring state. Their have been some some territorial changes done by plebiscite into 1921.
Most of the borderstones, set up on the frontier between Czechoslovakia and their neighbors, have their origin in the period 1920-1922. These can be seen today, when taking a stroll on the very border (from borderstone to borderstone). Prior to 1920 or 1918, that is when "the kingdom of the Czech lands" still existed, the border of the respective lands has not been marked by borderstones in any definite standardized manner. There were, though, set up borderstones on important locations, say by the main roads, tops of the mountains, rivers, tripoints. Since the Austrian Empire has been a federation-like state, the countries that made the Austrian Empire had their borderstones between themselves.
In 1920, Czechoslovakia had a "worm"-like shape, so the borderstones set up then stretched far, all the way to the CS-PL-RO tripoint (in existence between 1919-1939). Today, this point is located on the ukrainian-romanian border. These stones still exist in their original position, they are just not painted anymore.
On these stones, on the Czechoslovakian side are the letters CS. C stands for Czech, S stands for Slovakia. Not, Socialistic as you assumed.
When it comes to ATDECZ tripoint picture: the guy is sitting on the top, his left leg is in Austria by the letter "Ö", his right leg is in Bavaria (Germany) indicated by the letter "B", and his buttocks are in the Czech republic indicated by the letter "C", but not seen on the picture. The photograph is definitely taken from south.
 
Petter

udomet@... wrote:

> http://platon.cbvk.cz/kniha/priloha/sonnl.php

> On stone are visible letters "ö" - österreich - Austria
> "B" - Bohemia - Czech


     I visited 2001-2003 often the border CZ-D (Bavaria and Saxony) and made
many pics and films.
 
     First since 1920 CZ and Ö to set borderstones in agreement with state
treaty of St.-Germain-en-Laye
     (to WW I). To 1918 was Bohemia a part of austrian empire without
borderstones.
     "B" is alwas the shortening of all borderstones for Bavaria/Bayern
along border CZ/D and A/D.

      Shortening for Czech  was C or CR  to 1948 (Ceska Republika)

                                             CS         off 1948      
(Ceskoslovenska Socialisticka Republica)

                       and now again C  
                        


 









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