--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> I do agree that "The Ends of the Earth" is a completely
appropriate name for
> these special places, since no other two points on the planet
are farther apart.
>
> Now, Mike, I want to remember your current state of excitement
and pleasure the
> next time someone else happens to stray from strictly
tripoint-related material
> in these discussions. :-)
hahahaha
thank you thank you
& dont you think the freakin ends of the earth are real enough as
both boundary points & extremities to fairly command attention
here
hahaha
but just to fully & finally redeem them if they really needed it
into a truly worthy bp combination triplication ensemble
http://www.futureforests.com/uploadedimages/heart_marsh1.gif
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:24 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: where & how far are the farthest
places continued
>
>
> > it turns out there isnt much more at my local library either
> > but i did see in the times atlas there
> > that our primary ground zero in sumatra appears to fall in a
> > remote area
> > except that it is near a roadway
> > & an interior lowland stream crossing
> >
> > & it is possibly tens rather than merely units of meters above
sea
> > level there
> > contrary to previous assumption
> >
> > but that doesnt slow us down a bit
> > while it does slightly increase the prospective maxidiameter
> >
> >
> > & i have also learned in the meantime that there are likewise
> > sumatran paper topos available
> > which i will also be able to order in due time
> > tho not before getting the exact point right on the ecuadorean
> > topo first of course
> > which i will order as soon as we are satisfied with all the
maths
> >
> > finally
> > desserts stressed
> > as the discoverers of these farthest flung points on earth
> > or yikes
> > maybe they are nothing less than the legendary
> > long sought & elusive
> > so called
> > ends of the earth
> > yikes
> > it will also be our great honor & privilege to figure out how to
> > properly enshrine them
> >
> > but this is so exciting i am getting ahead of ourselves
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "m06079"
> > <barbaria_longa@h...> wrote:
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
McManus"
> > > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > > I don't have any time for complex maths now, since my
> > > household is over 32 hours
> > >
> > > yikes
> > > thats pretty complex already
> > >
> > > but this & your following message are generally reassuring
of
> > > my hunch & sense that cayambe will hold up over the other
2
> > > candidates
> > >
> > > in the meantime
> > > i have learned its official elevation is 5790 meters
> > > rather than 5786
> > >
> > > but little else can be found online about either of these
> > > prospective antipodes
> > >
> > > there is a 50k scale cayambe topo i can order from
ecuador
> > tho
> > >
> > > & i am off to the library now for better detail on the lats &
longs
> > >
> > > beeps
> > >
> > >
> > > > without running water, and it will be mid-morning
tomorrow at
> > > best when I can
> > > > get it running again.
> > > >
> > > > The sole practical function of the equatorial bulge is to
match
> > > the sea beds and
> > > > dry lands to the effects of centrifugal force on the fluid
> > seas--i.e.
> > > to keep
> > > > the equtorial regions from being swamped. Indeed, this
> > > functional approach is
> > > > what convinced Newton that there just had to be an
> > equatorial
> > > bulge, all
> > > > mathematics aside.
> > > >
> > > > There is no centrifugal force at the precise point of the
poles,
> > > because those
> > > > points are not in rotation. The force is greatest at the
> > Equator,
> > > since it is
> > > > in fastest rotation.
> > > >
> > > > The formula for determining centrifugal force is:
> > > > F=mv2/r
> > > > In other words, the force equals the mass of the rotating
> > object
> > > times its
> > > > velocity squared divided by the radius. (For the purpose
of
> > this
> > > formula, the
> > > > "radius" of any point on the earth would not be its
distance
> > from
> > > the earth's
> > > > center, but its perpendicular distance from the earth's
axis.)
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps someone with enough mathematical skills (and
> > > running water) might be
> > > > able to determine the rate of change in centrifugal force
per
> > > minute of latitude
> > > > in the vicinity of the equator. That should approximate the
> > rate
> > > of change in
> > > > the equatorial bulge.
> > > >
> > > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 3:35 PM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] where & how far are the farthest
> > > places continued
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > ok i am back again already from both ecuador &
sumatra
> > > > > with several chunks of good news
> > > > > on the
> > > > > how far is it
> > > > > front
> > > > >
> > > > > first & unexpectedly
> > > > > we appear to have reached some sort of an objective
> > ceiling
> > > > > with the most recent instalment of this prolonged try
> > > > > aka message 13550
> > > > > to which this message is actually an addition
> > > > > but which now seems to resist further additions to its
text
> > via
> > > the
> > > > > normal reply function
> > > > >
> > > > > so our long years of trying & testing how high we can
stack
> > a
> > > > > yahoo thread appear to have finally reached a certain
> > > objective
> > > > > culmination & cosmic accolade
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > second
> > > > > the actual progress report on the diametric trials
> > > > >
> > > > > the still uncorrobated but probably adequate peakware
> > > coords
> > > > > in integral degmin or approximate mile squares
> > > > > for all 4 of the candidate peaks of ecuador were first
> > > antipodized
> > > > > to sumatra & then matched with the actual topography
> > there
> > > > >
> > > > > & all 4 of these diametric trials arrived rather uniformly
in
> > > various
> > > > > parts of the coastal lowlands of riau province
> > > > > where any boost obtained would certainly be
measurable
> > in
> > > no
> > > > > more than single digits of meters
> > > > >
> > > > > so this discovery already flatly rules out candidate
number
> > 4
> > > > > antisana
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > & third
> > > > > as to the only remaining question that needs to be
> > answered
> > > > > before selecting the true winner from among cayambe
& its
> > 2
> > > > > taller rivals is the question of the bulge gradient
> > > > >
> > > > > regardless of all those spheroidal & ellipsoidal &
geoidal
> > > maths
> > > > > which i confess i dont fully understand
> > > > > my intuition keeps telling me that the latitudes of polar
> > > flattening
> > > > > will be the more nearly spherical ones & the latitudes of
> > > > > equatorial bulging the less spherical ones
> > > > > & that the gradient of differentiation must be most
gradual
> > > near
> > > > > the poles & steepest & indeed quite steep nearest the
> > > equator
> > > > >
> > > > > so those 477 meters per degree average of yours
lowell
> > > might
> > > > > actually drop to 0 at the 90th degree but might approach
> > > 4777 or
> > > > > even 47777 meters or who knows what maximum in
the
> > > degree
> > > > > or minute or second nearest the equator
> > > > >
> > > > > & having zigzagged all that thru my mind several times
now
> > > in
> > > > > both directions
> > > > > i am imagining that your nod & blessing over it all
yesterday
> > > > > implicitly included your agreement on this very question
> > > about
> > > > > the gradient
> > > > > & that it just wasnt worth talking about then
> > > > > so you didnt waste any breath on it
> > > > > & it continues to not be worth talking about now
> > > > >
> > > > > except
> > > > > i would like some explicit corroboration from at least
> > > someone
> > > > > who feels comfortable with the maths in the links to
> > > message
> > > > > 13550
> > > > > before continuing to acclaim cayambe the winner
> > > > > & proceeding to zero in on its coords & its elevation
> > > > > to obtain the final answer to & object of our quest
> > > > >
> > > > > thanx
> > > > >
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