Subject: Re: MDUA no. 1<br/>
Date: Mar 03, 2004 @ 15:23<br/>
Author: acroorca2002 (&quot;acroorca2002&quot; &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1052443883">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;Peter Smaardijk&quot; <br/>
&lt;smaardijk@y...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Art. 5<br/>
&gt; 1. The state boundary will be marked in the field by clearly <br/>
 </span></blockquote>visible <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; boundary markers:<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; a) at the meeting points of the state boundaries of the Ukraine, <br/>
 </span></blockquote>the <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Republic of Moldavia, and Romania - by boundary meeting <br/>
 </span></blockquote>point markers;<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; (...)&quot;<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; So presumably there will be erected special tripoint markers, <br/>
 </span></blockquote>but as <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; the tripoint agreement wasn&#39;t yet made at the time of this <br/>
 </span></blockquote>boundary <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; agreement (August 18, 1999), they hadn&#39;t been placed yet.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>this is peculiar<br/>
<br/>
for one thing <br/>
we know these tripoints are quite wet<br/>
so it is technically impossible to follow the exact instructions <br/>
given in the text for marking them<br/>
<br/>
& for another<br/>
we dont know if there is a tripartite agreement about them even <br/>
yet<br/>
<br/>
& that could affect the placement & orientation & nature of mdua <br/>
marker 1<br/>
<br/>
indeed its unusual designation 0001 suggests it could already <br/>
be something more than a common line stone or turn stone<br/>
<br/>
or that it could have been envisioned to become something <br/>
more<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
so conceivably <br/>
in addition to clearly being the mdua initial or terminal marker<br/>
this monument could already be serving as half of the tripoint <br/>
demarcation<br/>
or could become coopted for that purpose in future<br/>
if mated to an intervisible companion on the romanian right bank<br/>
in the fairly conventional witness format aka indirect demarcation<br/>
<br/>
but there is no reason to suppose romania would be in any hurry <br/>
to agree upon or to install such a marker<br/>
say unlike the distinctly self interested north korea at cnkpru<br/>
<br/>
so <br/>
also conceivably <br/>
the final tripoint position may already be clearly & deliberately <br/>
indicated <br/>
not by any actual trilateral hardware as such<br/>
but simply by prolongation & projection of the mdua segment <br/>
between markers 2 & 1<br/>
as far as the thalweg or midway or whatever mdro is actually <br/>
defined by <br/>
<br/>
indeed a fully effective demarcation<br/>
especially for a border with this kind of termination & this kind of <br/>
indifferent third party <br/>
would naturally place the first 2 monuments in a sight line <br/>
toward the tripoint</div>