Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries of Cyprus
Date: Jan 18, 2004 @ 19:07
Author: Jesper Nielsen ("Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@...>)
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There is also a border line on this map:
http://www.cyprus-un-plan.org/MapofFamagusta.pdf

but I cannot see anything else. What is this line?

Can anybody see the other maps at http://www.cyprus-un-plan.org/map.html??

Please let me know.

Jesper
----- Original Message -----
From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 10:07 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries of Cyprus


> good
> i am content with that
> whether he means it literally
> or is figuratively replacing the line with the buffer zone
> no matter
>
> so it seems to me the 4 most major de facto tripoints we have always
> known & loved on cyprus should remain completely unaffected by the
> complication of a green line that has purely historical meaning & no
> longer any actual military force
>
> & moreover by a green line whether real or metaphorical that may or
> may not fall within the buffer zone in the moments of tripointing
> truth
>
> but still cant be sure
>
> need to see the right map
>
> it could be a real issue or a non issue
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen" <jesniel@i...>
> wrote:
> > "The Green Line is no longer a line on the map of Nicosia, it's a
> line on
> > the whole map of Cyprus." from
> http://www.kypros.org/Lefkosia/line.htm , the
> > homepage of the Nicosia municipality.
> >
> > I think it can be hard to define the true meaning of the Green
> Line, and I
> > think the above statement represents my understanding well.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 9:35 PM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries of Cyprus
> >
> >
> > > the line between turkish & greek military forces at least in
> nicosia
> > > at the time of the cease fire
> > >
> > > dont know if the line extends anywhere beyond nicosia tho
> > > i mean except as followed by the buffer zone itself
> > >
> > > do you
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> <jesniel@i...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > What do you understand by the "Green Line"?
> > > >
> > > > Jesper
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> > > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:12 PM
> > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Boundaries of Cyprus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Meynell <knm@m...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >the implications for tripointing are still unclear
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have yet to find a map that plots the lines of control in
> an
> > > > > accurate
> > > > > > enough way to determine points of any kind. I walked both
> sides
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > buffer zone in Nicosia, and followed the line (on the
> > > Greek/British
> > > > > side)
> > > > > > in a few areas elsewhere in Cyprus, and think you could only
> > > draw a
> > > > > > definitive border by noting the placement of barricades on
> the
> > > > > ground.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In some places such as the Roccas bastion/Paphos Gate area
> of
> > > > > Nicosia, you
> > > > > > could probably pinpoint a CYKKUN tripoint with reasonable
> > > accuracy,
> > > > > but in
> > > > > > other areas these can probably only exist in the
> imagination.
> > > > >
> > > > > yes i can certainly appreciate that there might be triareas
> > > rather
> > > > > than exact tripoints
> > > > > tho it might be even more fun in those cases
> > > > > to try to get a precise fix on the triangle of uncertainty
> > > > >
> > > > > i have also been thinking that because kokkina has no green
> line
> > > but
> > > > > only a buffer zone
> > > > > the green line may be less definitive of reality somehow than
> the
> > > > > neutral zone
> > > > >
> > > > > but be that as it may
> > > > > it seems to me the 4 primary tripoints we have previously
> > > identified
> > > > > do continue to hold up
> > > > > even if they should melt down a little into triareas
> > > > > & even if they should also get splayed a bit farther apart
> > > > > in the event that the green line fell outside the buffer zone
> at
> > > the
> > > > > sba conjunctions
> > > > >
> > > > > for we dont know those 2 critical details yet do we
> > > > >
> > > > > but i think the same 4 old tripoints or triareas where the
> > > buffers
> > > > > meet the sba are probably still the primary ones in reality
> > > > > approximately anyway
> > > > >
> > > > > any other views
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin Meynell
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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