Subject: Re: mxn trip?
Date: Dec 11, 2003 @ 20:49
Author: m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "adamnvillani" <avillani@u...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:22 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: mxn trip?
>
>
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> >
> > > The geodesic segment originally terminated at the confluence of
the
> > rivers,
> > > which was then somewhere in the bottoms northeast of what is
now
> > downtown Yuma.
> >
> > I believe you are correct. Checking out the City of Yuma's
website
> > shows some old photographs that show Fort Yuma located on the
bluff
> > on the opposite side of the Colorado, at the confluence of the
two
> > rivers. If you look at the landforms, too, it seems more likely
that
> > the location of the confluence changed along the floodplain there
> > rather than the low mesa the town sits upon.
> >
> > In other words, the line started at the confluence of the two
rivers,
> > but the border started where that line crossed the Colorado.
> >
> > I wonder how the western end of that line was chosen. It seems
likely
> > that it was just chosen as a location that allowed for the area
> > around San Diego Bay to be in the USA but not much more. Seems
odd
> > that they didn't set the border on the Pacific at, say, the mouth
of
> > the Tijuana River, which would be a couple miles north of where
it is.

well something has clearly gone awry with the yahoo server
since this message 12605 arrived with no message but only backup
& 2 of my earlier posts are either lost or suspended in ether
& who knows what else is pending or screwed up
but i will try to break thru by answering this & your following
question
from the bible

first on page 28
quoting from the 1848 peace treaty of guadalupe hidalgo
it says
1 marine league due south of the southernmost point of the port of
san diego
according to an attached copy of the 1782 pantoja map published 1802
etc etc

> >
> > While we're at it, I wonder what the history of the geodetic line
> > that forms the WNW/ESE southern border of Arizona/Gadsden
Purchase
> > is. How was it chosen?

& then on page 29
quoting from the gadsden treaty of 1853
it simply indicates this line was agreed to reach
from the intersection of lat 32 deg 20 min & long 111
to a point on the colorado river 20 english miles below the junction
of the gila & colorado rivers

also i believe the main point of this purchase was to facilitate a
southern transcontinental railroad
so no surprise to see it following the transport corridor

so it seems both of your surmises are right on the money

now lets see if this try gets thru the yahoo


A map of Baja California shows Mexico Hwy. 2
> > extending for about 15 miles WNW of the azbcso tripoint, roughly
> > along the same alignment as the WNW/ESE line in question. Hmm.
> >
> > Adam
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >