Subject: Re: cnkpru 1:200.000
Date: Nov 24, 2003 @ 23:30
Author: m06079 ("m06079" <barbaria_longa@...>)
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thanx much
am on a pay computer in san luis obispo now
& will savor this more at leisure

--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
<smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> From http://law.optima.ru/View.html?0=42267&1=1 (translated
by me):
>
> GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
>
> DECREE
>
> August, 6, 1998, no. 891
> Moscow
>
> On the reaching of an Agreement between the Government of
the Russian
> Federation, the Government of the Chinese People's Republic,
and the
> Government of the Korean Democratic People's Republic on
the
> definition of the line of delimitation of the boundary water areas
of
> the three countries on the Tumannaja river.
>
> The Government of the Russian Federation decrees:
> To approve the draft, presented by the Ministry of Foreign
Affairs of
> the Russian Federation, in agreement with the Ministry of
Defense of
> the Russian Federation, the Federal Boundary Service of the
Russian
> Federation, and the Ministry of Justice of the Russian
Federation, of
> the Agreement between the Government of the Russian
Federation, the
> Government of the Chinese People's Republic, and the
Government of
> the Korean Democratic People's Republic on the definition of
the line
> of delimitation of the boundary water areas of the three
countries on
> the Tumannaja river (annexed to this decree).
> To instruct the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian
Federation
> to sign the said Agreement in the name of the Russian
Federation,
> following the reaching of an agreement with the Chinese and
Korean
> sides, while allowing it to make changes in and additions to
this
> draft as long as these are not of principal importance.
>
> The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation,
> S. Kirienko
>
> Draft
> AGREEMENT
> between the Government of the Russian Federation, the
Government of
> the Chinese People's Republic, and the Government of the
Korean
> Democratic People's Republic on the definition of the line of
> delimitation of the boundary water areas of the three countries
on
> the Tumannaja river.
>
> The Government of the Russian Federation, the Government of
the
> Chinese People's Republic, and the Government of the Korean
> Democratic People's Republic, hereafter named the Sides,
> aiming to strengthen and develop their good-neighbourly and
friendly
> ties, governed by the principles of the reciprocal recognition of
> sovereignty, territorial integrity, equality, and reciprocal
> advantages,
> on the basis of the existing boundary agreements between the
three
> countries,
> with the aim of defining a line, forming a boundary on the
Tumannaja
> river (Tumèn'czjan, Tumangan) between the water area of the
Russian
> Federation and the water area of the Korean Democratic
People's
> Republic, and the joint boundary water area of the Chinese
People's
> Republic and the Korean Democratic People's Republic
(hereafter: line
> delimiting the boundary water areas of the three countries),
> have agreed to the following:
>
> Article 1
> 1. The line delimiting the boundary water areas of the three
> countries on the Tumannaja river is a straight line, running
> perpendicular from boundary marker no. 423 on the
Russian-Chinese
> state boundary to the line in the middle of the main channel of
the
> river in between the two river banks.
> This line marks the boundary of the Chinese-Korean joint
boundary
> water area on the Tumannaja river.
> 2. The state boundary meeting point of the Russian
Federation, the
> Chinese People's Republic, and the Korean Democratic
People's
> Republic on the Tumannaja river (hereafter – state boundary
meeting
> point of the three countries) is located on the point where the
line
> delimiting the boundary water areas of the three countries
intersects
> the middle line of the main channel of the river.
> This point marks at the same time the starting point of the
Russian-
> Korean state boundary.
>
> Article 2
> In the case of any natural changes taking place on the
Tumannaja
> river, the location of the line delimiting the boundary water
areas
> of the three countries will not change until the Sides agree
> otherwise.
>
> Article 3
> 1. The line delimiting the boundary water areas of the three
> countries and the state boundary meeting point of the three
countries
> will be demarcated by three markers, placed on both banks of
the
> Tumannaja river, in line with the line delimiting the boundary
water
> areas of the three countries.
> As marker no. 1 will serve boundary marker no. 423 on the
Russian-
> Chinese boundary, located on the left bank of the Tumannaja
river,
> and has the following co-ordinates:
> Lat. = 42°25'10,2" N.
> Long. = 130°38'17,7" E.
> Marker no. 2 will be erected on the right bank of the Tumannaja
river
> on Korean territory and has the following co-ordinates:
> Lat. = 42°24'59,5" N.
> Long. = 130°38'06,5" E.
> Marker no. 3 will be erected on the left bank of the Tumannaja
river
> on Russian territory, its geographical co-ordinates will be
> additionally established in the terrain.
> The co-ordinates of the markers are established according to
the
> Pyongyang co-ordinate system.
> A boundary marker on the state boundary meeting point of the
three
> countries, which is located on the water level of the Tumannaja
> river, will not be erected.
> 2. Marker no. 1 consists of a four-sided granite marker on a
concrete
> base. The side facing Russia bears the inscription in the
Russian
> language "RF"; the side facing China bears the inscription in
the
> Chinese language "China", above the name of the country the
state
> coat-of-arms of the CPR has been fixed. Under the names of
the
> countries, the number of the boundary marker "423" and the
year of
> its establishment "1993" have been inscribed in Arabic
numerals. On
> the other two sides of the marker there are no inscriptions.
> Marker no. 2 consists of a three-sided granite marker on a
concrete
> base. The side facing Russia bears the inscription in the
Russian
> language "Russia", the side facing China bears the inscription
in the
> Chinese language "China", the side facing Korea bears the
inscription
> in the Korean language "Korea". Under the names of the
countries, the
> number of the marker and the year of establishment are
indicated in
> Arabic numerals.
> Marker no. 3 consists of a three-sided granite marker on a
concrete
> base. The side facing Russia bears the inscription in the
Russian
> language "Russia", the side facing China bears the inscription
in the
> Chinese language "China", the side facing Korea bears the
inscription
> in the Korean language "Korea". Under the names of the
countries, the
> number of the marker and the year of establishment are
indicated in
> Arabic numerals.
> Drawings and dimensions of the markers mentioned are
annexed to this
> Agreement.
>
> Article 4.
> 1. The Sides will co-operate and will take the appropriate
measures
> to prevent that the markers are moved, damaged, or lost.
> None of the Sides has the right to unilaterally erect other
markers
> that touch on the goals of this Agreement.
> 2. The Chinese Side is responsible for the conservation and
repair of
> marker no. 1, the Korean Side is responsible for that of marker
no.
> 2, and the Russian side is responsible for that of marker no. 3.
> 3. In the event of the discovery by one of the Sides that any of
the
> markers has been moved, damaged, or lost, this Side should
inform the
> other two Sides immediately. The Side that is responsible for
the
> conservation and repair of the marker involved has to repair the
> marker in the presence of representatives of the other two
Sides, or
> erect a new marker on the place of the former, in accordance
with the
> drawings and dimensions as indicated in the annex to this
Agreement.
> On the re-erection of a marker or the erection of a new marker
the
> Sides will draw up and sign a joint protocol.
> 4. In case it is necessary to change the location of any of the
> markers, the Sides may do so after an agreement has been
reached. In
> that case the change in the location of the marker may not lead
to a
> change in the line delimiting the boundary water areas of the
three
> countries or a change in the state boundary meeting point of
the
> three countries, established in the present Agreement.
> On the changing of the location of a marker the Sides will draw
up
> and sign a joint protocol.
>
> Article 5
> After the coming into force of this Agreement, the Sides will, in
the
> framework of the trilateral talks, define the concrete location of
> the state boundary meeting point of the three countries and the
co-
> ordinates of marker no. 3, will erect markers no. 2 and 3, will
draw
> up a descriptive protocol of the state boundary meeting point of
the
> three countries between the Government of the Russian
Federation, the
> Government of the Chinese People's Republic, and the
Government of
> the Korean Democratic People's Republic and will draw up a
map of the
> area of the state boundary meeting point of the three countries.
>
> Article 6
> The present Agreement comes into force at the time of its
signing.
>
> Made up in…, the …th of …, 199…, in three copies, each of
them in the
> Russian, Chinese, and Korean languages, each of the texts
having
> equal power.
>
> For the Government of the Russian Federation
> For the Government of the Chinese People's Republic
> For the Government of the Korean Democratic People's
Republic
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Smaardijk"
> <smaardijk@y...> wrote:
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
<orc@o...>
> wrote:
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Jesper Nielsen"
> > > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > >
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/EART/korea/200k/11-52-17.jpg
> > >
> > > & dig that crazy china proruption with the double chicken
neck
> > > now visible in all its glory
> > >
> > > but isnt there some sort of a condo or dispute or some
other
> > > irregularity in this area that could cancel or revise it all
> > >
> > > like what is the real deal here
> > > does anyone remember
> >
> > A possible CNKP river condominium.
> >
> > >
> > > & particularly
> > > what is the present status & nature of this trijunction
> >
> > I don't know, but in 1998, KPRU was demarcated except for a
small
> > part (less than 100 m) between the first KPRU marker pair
and
> CNKPRU,
> > which still needs to be defined (acc. to this report from 1998:
> >
>
http://asiapacific.narod.ru/countries/koreas/border_regulation.ht
m ).
> >
> > Peter S.