yes that was one of our finest happy hours mate
& i congratulate you for httping the url too
& wish all our informants would emulate you in this
& a rare pic of the elusive mud turtle itself can be seen on the
manhvt page of jacks book
which you reference at the left of your page
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "bjbutlerus" <bjbutler@b...>
wrote:
> Yahoo is being pedantic about URL's, so here is the link again, this
> time with the protocol specifier:
>
> http://www.bjbsoftware.com/corners/pointdetail.php3?point=53
>
> BJB
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "bjbutlerus" <bjbutler@b...>
wrote:
> > Mike and I, and my brother Gregg, are old hands at probing for
buried
> > monuments with wires, having poked the turtle at MANHVT, which we
> > marked with a driftwood monument as shown here:
> >
> > http://www.bjbsoftware.com/corners/pointdetail.php3?point=53
> >
> > BJB
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > I visited TXnw some years ago, and I'm in perfect agreement with
> > your assessment
> > > of its location in relation to the highway.
> > >
> > > I was puzzled to find nothing even slightly monumental there,
but I
> > envied the
> > > residents of the farmhouse in the northwestern corner of
Texas. I
> > have since
> > > read (where, I do not remember) that the historic monument was
> > removed as a
> > > hazard to traffic, and that it was replaced by a buried marker
of
> > some sort.
> > > Rather than dig for it, I would suggest using a stiff wire
> (coat-hanger,
> > > perhaps) to probe for it, then dig where you find it.
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 1:37 PM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: NW corner TX panhandle
> > >
> > >
> > > > in case you dont want to wade thru the following message 10429
> > > > i am happy to confirm from visual examination of the fence
lines
> that
> > > > the northwest corner of the texas panhandle does not in fact
reach
> > > > the highway
> > > > nor even the paved shoulder of the highway
> > > > with about 8 feet to spare
> > > >
> > > > & it is just a simple ordinary 2 lane highway with a very wide
> fenced
> > > > right of way
> > > > only half of which is mown
> > > >
> > > > txnw does fall just on the fairway side of the rough line
> > > > & is in fact only about 30 feet from the road center line
> > > > so it is understandable that the monument might have been
removed or
> > > > destroyed
> > > >
> > > > but yikes it never occurred to me to dig for the underground
marker
> > > > sheesh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > also
> > > > in truth i must report i just discovered at topozone that my
recent
> > > > txne try was a muff too
> > > > hahaha
> > > >
> > > > what i found was an oktx monument about 1000 feet west of
true txne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > then
> > > > i neglected to mention
> > > > i slithered west from there along an oktx road for awhile
> > > > fishtailing & spraying mud into both states alternately
> > > > perhaps dozens of oscillations per mile
> > > > trying to balance my panhandles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > so anyway happily we still have somewhere to go on both of
the texas
> > > > north corners
> > > >
> > > > & at the same time & perhaps no less interesting might be a
search
> > > > for txn
> > > > the northernmost point of texas
> > > > which i also failed to find
> > > >
> > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
<orc@o...>
> wrote:
> > > > > the photo linked in message 10400 makes the corner of texas
> > > > > seem to cross the road entirely
> > > > > & it is hard for me to doubt the reality & relative accuracy
> of the
> > > > > fence lines
> > > > > not only as shown there
> > > > > but also as previously eyeballed by me on the ground
> > > > > so i have to wonder
> > > > > perhaps the 24k topo is overworked when magnified to 6k
scale
> > > > > & is it possible that the far shoulder is the one indicated
by the
> > > > > other data you mention
> > > > >
> > > > > also the photo makes it seem like there was a recent or
ongoing
> > > > > road widening project there
> > > > > which could have substantially changed the relationships &
> > > > > alignments from how we ourselves recall them
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > also
> > > > > rambling on & doubling up to save messages
> > > > > as i am getting sleepy
> > > > > i do agree with you about highway 340 near mdvawv
> > > > > & dont see how there could possibly be 2 virginia stretches
there
> > > > >
> > > > > nor btw how there could possibly be anything but safety
around
> > > > > here
> > > > >
> > > > > as you have observed
> > > > > he who is happy goes lucky
> > > > > which of course includes safe
> > > > >
> > > > > & thanx to our precision try pointing
> > > > > & the deliberate creation it engenders
> > > > > lucky us
> > > > > perfectly safe
> > > > > by just continuing to point at what we like
> > > > > & thus continuing to live happily ever after
> > > > >
> > > > > good night all
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "jparsell"
> > > > > <jparsell@n...> wrote:
> > > > > > On this NAD83, 1:6000 Topozone map it appears that the
> > > > > marker is off
> > > > > > the pavement, but within the road right of way. As I
recall the
> > > > > Clark
> > > > > > Monument was near the edge of the road and was a collision
> > > > > hazard, so
> > > > > > it was removed and replaced at the same location by an
under
> > > > > ground
> > > > > > marker referenced by two witness poles located well away
> > > > > from the highway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://test.topozone.com/map.asp?z=13&n=4041232&e=675387
> > > > > &s=6&u=2&datum=nad83
> > > > > > &layer=DRG25
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jack
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: acroorca2002 [mailto:orc@o...]
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 2:47 PM
> > > > > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Hancok, MD
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for the very shortest such
> > > > > > consider
> > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=13&n=4041216&e=67516
> > > > > > 8&s=25
> > > > > > at the northwest corner of the texas panhandle
> > > > > > where both rumor & fence lines indicate texas gets
barely
> > > > > nipped
> > > > > > by the eastbound lane
> > > > > > & not at all by the westbound lane
> > > > > > of us56&64
> > > > > >
> > > > > > depending on which side of the vehicle one is sitting in
> > > > > > the travel distance might be measured in inches rather
than
> > > > > feet
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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