Subject: Re: Ger-Lux<br/>
Date: Oct 06, 2003 @ 04:43<br/>
Author: m06079 (&quot;m06079&quot; &lt;barbaria_longa@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1360308307">--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, Brendan Whyte <br/>
&lt;bwhyte@u...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; So condo established in 1816 between Neth and Prussia.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>good <br/>
& that was all you asked for <br/>
wasnt it<br/>
<br/>
nor do i see what all this other fuss & speculation are about<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
successor states & regimes etc do inherit the borders of their <br/>
predecessors<br/>
all other things being equal<br/>
<br/>
dont they<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Then Belgium splits off 1830, formalised 1839, leaving half of <br/>
 </span></blockquote>former <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; province of Luxemburg to the Netherlands. This Dutch rump is <br/>
 </span></blockquote>today&#39;s <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; independent Lux.<br/>
&gt; Dutch kinds ocntinue as Grand Dukes of Luxemburg, but the <br/>
 </span></blockquote>Grand Duchy <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; becomes more and more independent as 1800s progress.<br/>
&gt; German-Dutch, German-Belgina and German-Lux boundaries <br/>
 </span></blockquote>are maintained as <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; per 1816 treaty of Aachen.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>of course<br/>
& i am surprised you find any of this <br/>
or any subsequent maintenance of the status quo<br/>
or restoration of the status quo ante <br/>
at all surprising or remarkable<br/>
<br/>
change rather than continuance is what would stand out<br/>
<br/>
in fact there are often no reiterations of agreements or other <br/>
signs of their continuance than the fact of the continuance itself <br/>
<br/>
& once made <br/>
an agreement can & normally will continue indefinitely<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; 1922 Belgium gets Eupen and Malmedy and Vennbahn <br/>
 </span></blockquote>railroad as compensation <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; for invasion from Germany.<br/>
&gt; Lux gets nothing. Dutch were neutral, so no changes there.<br/>
&gt; 1940, Germany annexes back Lux, Eupen and Malmedy<br/>
&gt; 1945 boundaryies returned to where they were prewar, except <br/>
 </span></blockquote>Neth and <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Belgium both get to administer (not annex) some of the more <br/>
&gt; complex/interesting German areas adjacent to their <br/>
 </span></blockquote>boundaries. These are <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; pretty much all returned to Germany with only very minor <br/>
 </span></blockquote>modifications to <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; the sovereign boundaries in the 1950s. As Lux had mainly river <br/>
 </span></blockquote>boundaries <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; with Germany, there was little advantage to changing its <br/>
 </span></blockquote>boundary, so there <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; were no changes there.<br/>
&gt; It is somewhat surprising that this condominium was not <br/>
 </span></blockquote>changed to give Lux <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; total control over the river up to the eastern banks after ww1 or <br/>
 </span></blockquote>ww2. But <br/>
<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt; perhaps the regime worked well for Lux and Germany.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Brendan </span></blockquote></div>