Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Ancient Finnish borders<br/>
Date: Sep 17, 2003 @ 23:04<br/>
Author: Dallen Timothy (Dallen Timothy &lt;dtimothy@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1754663827">Do you really think most were marked by then? Many were marked yes, as<br/>
we&#39;ve seen even on BP, but the border environment was still (1695 at<br/>
least) hanging on the concept of marche, or frontier area, rather than<br/>
distinct boundary lines. The late 1600s was really still in the<br/>
beginning stages of demarcation for most places. The North American<br/>
colonies were good examples of that too.<br/>
What&#39;s even more remarkable, is that one of the 1300s borders between<br/>
kingdoms is even marked in a few places in Finland and can still be<br/>
seen. My next trip will include a visit to those. To have a 1350 border<br/>
demarcated in such a way is definitely quite innovative for its time!<br/>
Dallen<br/>
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Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Ancient Finnish borders<br/>
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dallen i think you are overstating this aspect<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; It is located in central eastern Finland, and was finally<br/>
 </span></blockquote>marked/engraved in 1767. What&#39;s especially remarkable is that fact that<br/>
a very specific borderline was actually marked so early on. As you all<br/>
know, in most of Europe during that period, borders were a fairly<br/>
abstract notion and rarely demarcated.<br/>
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by 1767 many if not most boundaries in europe were already marked<br/>
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true <br/>
many of the boundaries have changed since then <br/>
so most working rocks are indeed younger than these<br/>
but boundaries were commonly marked even centuries earlier<br/>
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