Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: BZ-MX
Date: Aug 20, 2003 @ 00:03
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@...>)
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The simple outline maps on the web sites of both the states of Campeche and
Quintana Roo show their boundaries in the more conventional manner, so I don't
know exactly what is what.

I have a friend who is a Mexican-born, American-educated Mexican national of
German ethnicity who lives in Cozumel, Quintana Roo. I think I will write to
him and see if he can give any explanation to the wildly staggering boundaries
shown on some maps between Quintana Roo and its neighbors Campeche and Yucatán.
I will report back in due time.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA


----- Original Message -----
From: "acroorca2002" <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:18 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: BZ-MX


> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > There is a good map of this remote corner of Mexico at
> http://tinyurl.com/ki3p .
> >
> > This map shows considerable fine-scale revision of the
> boundary between the
> > Mexican states of Campeche and Quintana Roo compared to
> what is shown on most
> > maps. The state boundary is the thick light gray line.
> According to this map
> > at least, the Mexican territory at the bzgtmx tripoint pertains to
> the state of
> > Campeche.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
> yes & the bzgtmx tripoint if ever there should become one
> seems likely to remain in campeche just as shown on your map
> tho i have 2 maps here showing it in quintana roo too
>
> & tho it is shocking to see the state borders in the yucatan so
> distorted on your map from their familiar martini glass pattern
>
> & tho the bznw corner has never been marked by bz & mx
> but has only been defined verbally as the point on the rio azul
> where the meridian of bzgtmx crosses it
> aha
> & thus there could well be some new territory added by belize to
> mexico also as a result of the bzgt settlement
> & a new question as to which of these 2 mexican states this new
> territory would belong to
>
>
> for belize has at least verbally conceded to guatemala the extra 3
> & a half square mile sliver
>
> & the new bzgtmx marker has moved east from the old one to
> attach this sliver to guatemala
>
> & mexico has graciously agreed to facilitate everything too
> presumably because by the existing definition she too will gain a
> few extra square miles in the form of the trapezoidal projection of
> this sliver from the 2 bzgtmx markers to the rio azul
>
>
> so the resultant roughly 250 meter edge of this addition to
> mexican territory along the rio azul would abut quintana roo
> even as quintana roo is shown on your map
> just as surely as the roughly 15 mile long edge of the addition
> would abut only campeche as shown on your map
>
> so technically the new territory could be distributed to either or
> both of those states without loss of contiguity
>
> & only common sense would attach it to campeche rather than to
> quintana roo
>
> but given all the other nonsensical or at least inscrutable border
> squiggles mexico seems so fond & capable of
> & even assuming your map is as nearly correct as i do
> there really is no sure way to predict which of these states will
> finally gain the newly created mexican lands abutting the new or
> future bzgtmx
>
> i mean
> if it & they should ever come into existence
>
> but right now there is a total of about 7 square miles of territory
> just blowing in the wind here among the 3 countries
> in all 4 directions about the presumptive tripoints
> & anything might happen or not happen
>
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