http://home.hccnet.nl/c.damen/images/landkaart/landkaart_stip.jpg gives a
nice outline map of neutral moresnet & shows how it used to meet the bedenl
point in at least a quadripoint
note
netherlands is at upper left
germany is at upper right
old belgium is to the left of the blue dot area
moresnet or kelmis is within the blue dot area
eupen malmedy is to the right of the blue dot area
upon further study
i believe this bedenl point may also have been not just a legal quadripoint
but fully a legal quintipoint between 1919 & 1922
still only trinational in composition but quintipartite in form
when the 2 distinct but adjacent & convergent expatriated zones are
considered along with & separate from the 3 countries themselves
based on the info from brendan below & gideon & other sources
the chronology of the development of the point seems to be
1815 tripoint moresnet netherlands prussia north
1839 quadripoint belgium moresnet netherlands prussia
1871 quadripoint belgium germany moresnet netherlands
1919 quintipoint belgium eupen&malmedy germany moresnet netherlands
1922 quadripoint belgium germany kelmis netherlands
1940 1945 intermezzo
1945 quadripoint belgium germany kelmis netherlands resumes
1977 tripoint belgium germany netherlands
the trickiest part occurs between the treaty of versailles in 1919 & the
belated belgian confirmation to the league of nations in 1922 that the
confirmational plebiscite mandated for eupen malmedy in 1920 was in fact
completed
if the moresnet or kelmis area was not fully integrated into belgium until
1977 as mentioned below
but remained until then & except during world war 2 an international rather
than an exclusively belgian entity & territory
the terms of the treaty of versailles to the contrary notwithstanding
& if eupen malmedy was also not fully & legally integrated into belgium
until after the league of nations confirmed the plebiscite in 1922
then bedenl was a legal quintipoint between 1919 & 1922
& still a legal quadripoint as recently as 1977
or i am deceived
m
>thank you brendan
>
>these are the data i wanted
>
>fantastic
>
>m
>
>
>>
>>Actually it was a quadripoint from 1815-1918.
>>Moresnet was in dispute between Prussia and Holland afteer the Congress of
>>Vienna and so became a neutral zone between them (it contianed a valuable
>>zinc mine).
>>In 1830 Belgium became indep, and Moresnet became a Belg/Prussian neutral
>>zone, but still connected to Netherlands by a single point.
>>1918 treaty of Versailles, Belgium was awarded Eupen in Prussia (to be
>>affirmed by a 'plebiscite'in 1920) and so apart fomr the point, Moresnet was
>>now totally surrounded by Belgium (still it met Neth and Germany at the
>>point), so it was given to Belgium too.
>>In 1977 Moresnet commune was amalgamated with nearby commeunes, so the shape
>>of it has changed only recently. 1815-1977 it existed as an international
>>entity or a commune (called Kelmis by the Belgians).
>>Brendan
>>
>>
>>>From: michael donner <m@...>
>>>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@egroups.com
>>>To: BoundaryPoint@egroups.com
>>>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] tp belgium germany holland aka bedenl
>>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:32:31 -0400
>>>
>>>the present bedenl point was between 1919 & 1922 actually a
>>> >trinational quadripoint with a binational bede neutral zone
>>> >& the conjunction as a whole was therefore topologically identical to the
>>> >other suspected similarly defunct example which arif is on the track of
>>>at
>>> >present day tp iraq kuwait saudi arabia
>>>
>>>& if you zoom in on bedenl at mapquest
>>>you will see a municipal boundary also converging upon it from the ssw
>>>which in fact formerly separated the bede neutral zone from belgium
>>>& thus for a few years promoted this tp into a trinational quadripoint
>>>
>>>m