>I saw the 1964 reference in a syllabus for a political science course at
>Frazier University in British Columbia.
ahh thanx
i will follow up on that date
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>Interesting about the absence of
>wet points in or around Canada.
a rare case where i am not sure i understand you
for tho i dont pretend to grasp all this new nicholson data fully
my latest & still shifty take on the quickmud reality of canadian wet
points both international & internal is that they are not really absent at
all
but that they are constituted differently than & often a bit displaced
from where yanks expect them to be
& they often crop up in addition in faraway & strange places where we dont
expect them to be at all
& it appears they sometimes even double or triple up as well if a navigable
river or less than great lake falls where yanks would normally expect a
single international wet tripoint
in fact they may normally be doubled where 2 provs meet a state & tripled
where 2 states meet a prov
as you may imagine if you mentally insert the federal waters territory in
just the right place
tho be warned that there are a variety of known exceptions & possibly even
some unknown ones
it also seems that canadian international wet tripoints are likewise
produced unexpectedly wherever the international boundary meets coastal
water
at a total of 8 additional new places that are not usually thought of as
being at all tripunctual
& if you accept the reality of federal waters
of both the canadian & the american versions
then canadian international wet tripoints are evidently really produced as
well wherever the international boundary meets the boundary between
individual state waters & united states federal waters
occurring in each case at the 3 mile limit
in a total of 4 additional similarly surprising new places
i think the total of the canadian american trisecondary points of all the
above types combined plus the dry ones may be 37
but i confess it seems to keep changing daily with each new wrinkle i discover
& i do keep losing count
internal canadian wet tripoints are another story
there appear to be at least 28 of them where interprovincial & other major
internal boundaries meet the low tide line
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>It makes me wonder about MENBQC or what it
>beCAME. This boundary junction would exist a mere 20 feet or so off the
>eastern bank of the St. Francis. I'm still it because it meets my criterion
>of providing a memory when viewed on the TV weather map.
whaaa
you may still be it
if it is he who cant be understood
but i will give you all benefit of doubt & insert a word such as counting
at the critical point
because i believe this is essentially peters point also about bedelu
& in that case i do understand & agree with both of you
as i believe jack does too in the book
& between us yanks i dont blame any of you for wanting to keep things simple
while in my capacity as pontiff max of canada i am perhaps obliged to
report that as of 1954 at least the canadian portion of a navigable river
like the st francis
if indeed it is navigable that far upstream for i dont know
would very probably have been considered canadian federal territory
as it may very likely still be today
so the tripoint you were looking for thereabouts might really have been the
canada new brunswick quebec or canbqc tripoint that occurs where the nbqc
survey boundary meets the eastern shore of lake beau at mean low water or
as you indicate not very far east of the survey line trijunction shown on
the topo
to make things better tho
it is also my pleasure to tell you that when you swam for it at men
not only were you right
but it seems gregg may also have been standing precisely on the canada
maine quebec or cameqc tripoint when he photographed you from the end of
the meqc or caus survey boundary on the right bank of the st francis at
estcourt station
& there also appears to be a canada maine new brunswick or camenb tripoint
where the menb or caus survey boundary meets the right bank of the st john
river very near the so called northeast corner of maine
so evidently menbqc became at least 3 different widely scattered points
& i know that hardly seems a satisfactory answer to your question
but i believe it may be the truth
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>
>I would like to borrow your copy of the Canadian bible so I can commit it to
>memory.
gladly
it will be in the mail tomorrow
>
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>By the way, copying might be OK. I don't know how long a Canadian
>copyright exists, but I would probably copy it in the US and their 28 years
>are up. If they renewed I'll have to wait another 10 years!
it is ok with me if you copy it
since i believe the world is equally free for all
but i think american law could triple those 28 years
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>The most recent survey of the Manitoba-Saskatchewan line, as far as I know,
>was completed in 1968. I don't know why the staircase.
neither do the manitoba &or saskatchewan surveyors societies
who on their website say something like
it remains a mystery why the government of the period when the original
line was surveyed chose to do it that peculiar way
circa 1881 i believe
also the point bill made earlier tonite about townships & ranges is right on
& i believe the points where the jogs occur are called in canada
the centre lines of the road allowance between ranges
a fact which may somehow bear on the mystery
& which makes even these anomalies distinct from any yankee counterparts
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