A map of the bochterberg enclaves can be found in Book "Angerdorf och
exclave", Acta Wexionensia, serie 1:4, 1984.
I will endeavour to scan it.
And catudal's map of Steinstuecken.
BW
>From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Steinst�cken - DDR counter exclave? (1/1)
>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 09:34:06 -0000
>
>So you're saying that the Stahnsdorfer Strasse in between the
>Teltower Strasse and the Bernhard-Beyer-Strasse was GDR territory,
>and the jig isn't there. It doesn't look like that on this map. So
>I'd say an error, not a printing one, but a cartographic one.
>
>I have a post-Wende Berlin map, so I don't know whether the Federal
>Land-boundary here completely corresponds to the old situation. But
>there is a jig there, too. On the westernmost part of the
>Stahnsdorfer Str., the boundary runs slightly more to the south, so
>perhaps a couple of metres south of the southern edge of this street.
>After the jig, to the east, the boundary precisely follows the
>southern street edge. This "jig" is at exactly the same location as
>on David's map, but the difference is that the boundary doesn't cross
>over to the other side of the street.
>
>This could, of course, be a boundary rectification made after the
>reunification of Germany.
>
>The situation at where it says "Neu-Babelsberg" is the location of
>the former three Boettcherberg enclaves. I have never seen a map of
>these (at this time, they didn't exist anymore). How did they look?
>
>Lastly: I hope Falk will stop making maps with this stupid
>projection, distorting everything at the edges, and making it
>necessary to put in these "1000 m"-arrows.
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@h...> wrote:
> > According to Catudal's book, which has a cadastral map of
>Steinstucken
> > inside the cover, the boundary before the road was made W.German,
>was, form
> > the NW of Steinstucken, along Stahnsdorfer (the southern edge of
>the road)
> > to the railway (which is in a cutting here), and down the western
>side of
> > the cutting, then cutting east across the railway line, and the
>road
> > Bernhard-Beyer-Str, to the NE corner of the enclave. I suspect when
>they
> > made the access road to the enclave West Berliner territory, that
>the
> > railline was not included (you can see this on your map) so that
>the
> > northern 100m of rail line in your map shown by your phathom
>enclaver is
> > actuall East German. Thus you phanthom enclave is actually a
>salient of East
> > German territory into Steinstucken, being the rail line cutting.
> > So you are right and wrong.
> > You are right that there is no counter-enclave here. You are wrong
>in that
> > it is not a printing error so much as that the boundary line in red
>along
> > Stahnsdorfer Str fomr the west does not make a jig at Teltower Str,
>but goes
> > straight her, then, headed south down the west bank of the rail
>cutting,
> > across the rail line, then, post 1974, north up the east bank, and
>along the
> > access road to mainland WestbBerlin. The other boundary line comes
>down the
> > east side of the access road and Bernhard-Beyer-str, then heads
>east to
> > circumnavigate the eastern side of the enclave.
> >
> > No counter enclave, but a salient of East Gemrna railway into the
> > enx-enclave, after the addition of Bernhard-Beyer-Str and access
>road
> > connection to West Berlin post-1974.
> >
> > BW
> >
> >
> > >From: "David Birch" <dbirch@c...>
> > >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > >To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > >Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Steinst�cken - DDR counter exclave?
>(1/1)
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 08:51:59 -0000
> > >
> > >Many apologies that those two map attachments didn't work - I seem
>to
> > >be unable to send attachments to this group. (What do I need to do
>to
> > >allow me to do this? Yahoo Groups Help is useless!) In the meantime
> > >I've posted the two maps to the files area.
> > >
> > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/files/falkberlin1.jpg
> > >
> > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/files/falkberlin2.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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