Subject: Re: Berlin exclaves revisited, Bottcherberg
Date: Jun 25, 2001 @ 19:51
Author: Peter Smaardijk ("Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>)
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Thanks Mats! These pictures are absolutely stunning! And I must say
these enclaves are the silliest ones I've ever seen.

They could be the smallest enclaves there ever were. Unless there are
smaller ones still; the contest only just started. The resemblance of
enclave-collecting and stamp-collecting has never been so great.

Peter S.

--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Mats Hessman <blofeld_es@y...> wrote:
> Peter Smaardijk wrote:
>
> >The situation at where it says "Neu-Babelsberg" is the location of
> >the former three Boettcherberg enclaves. I have never seen a map
of
> >these (at this time, they didn't exist anymore). How did they look?
>
> I had the opportunity briefly to visit the Bottcherberg-area
> just the other week.
>
> Here is an excerpt from a cadastral map of Berlin, Stadtplan
> von Berlin, part 4063/3063, 1:4000 from 1953. (Taken
> from T Book, "Angerdorf och Exklav", Vaxjo 1984)
>
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/Book_Bottcherberg_overlayed.jpg
>
> I have named the three exclaves (overlayed in red text) and tried
> to hint the photoangles (overlayed in blue) of the following
> pictures.
>
> Picture 01
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb01_annotated.jpg
> This shows the two southern exclaves, looking east. West Berlin
> is in the darkness behind a wall to the right. The small chruch
> is not visible behind the bushes to the left.
>
> Picture 02
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb02_annotated.jpg
> This shows the two southern exclaves and parts of West and
> East Berlin. I am not quite sure where the borders actually
> are (were!). For example, is the border following the wall
> to the left, or does it follow the edge of the plaster?
>
> Picture 03
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb03_annotated.jpg
> This is the same area from another angle. Again the precise
> location of the border is difficult to fix. Did the pavement
> to the right form part of "Bottcherberg SE" or not? The streets
> look newly repaired to me, and I expect this area was part
> of the border zone before 1989, when the roads were probably
> not covered with plaster.
>
> Picture 04
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb04_annotated.jpg
> This shows the norther exclave, looking west. Parts of the
> churchyard is visible to the left. I think the entire area
> was used as a churchyard, at least prior to 1961, but the
> northern part was converted to part of the border zone.
> Probably at least some of the border installations stood on
> this part of West Berlin soil at some time. I wonder
> if the East German authorities had any idea about the
> exclave?
>
> Picture 05
> http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb05_annotated.jpg
> The northern exclave again, this time seen from West Berlin.
> Note the extremely narrow gap between "mainland" West Berlin
> and the exclave. The hinted borderlines are, of course,
> tentative.
>
> Mats