Mmm... there we go again (you're going to keep the scores, David?).
My (personal, needless to say) opinion is that the border in the
tunnel depends entirely on the nature of the border on the ground or
in the water above the tunnel. So: internal water -> land bdy., terr.
water -> +/- equal to land bdy., etc. I think that in this case the
legal status of the territory, be it dry or wet, doesn't change (but
perhaps I'm wrong).
The same goes for bridges (they can bridge water _and_ land, of
course).
Most the polders in the Netherlands were made before all these legal
nautical zones were implemented, or just didn't effect them (the ones
in the Zuiderzee, which, together with the nl part of the Wadden Sea,
was internal water, before it was closed by the Afsluitdijk). There
are some places that are more recent _and_ could have an effect on
the zones: the piers at IJmuiden, and those at the Hook of Holland,
combined with the Rotterdam harbour extension plan called the
Maasvlakte.
This is an interesting question. The normal reaction would be that
the 12 nm limit adapts to the new coastline. But then the Netherlands
would unilaterally annex parts that are outside of it. Luckily it has
no effect on the EEZ. But somewhere else in the world it could well
have, after all we don't have the monopoly on polders and landfills.
Are countries, by "unilaterally" extending their territory, allowed
to take pieces of "everyones land" as well? Any opinions on this from
anyone?
I remember this problem from the Bidasoa/Txingudi question we
discussed a couple of months ago: are the French infringing on the
condominium by reclaiming part of it (which they did, to build most
of the seaside resort of Hendaia/Hendaye-Plage). Or was there an
additional international agreement on this? I haven't found such a
document (yet). There was such an agreement on the expansion of a
small refuge harbour on the Spanish side, in Hondarribia.
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., David Mark <dmark@g...> wrote:
> Personally, I would count a tunnel as a land boundary-- why not?
> (Not a bridge, and I'm not sure about a causeway.)
>
> It is now 1 to 1, what do the rest of you say?
>
> A key point would be, what law applies? Does building a causeway
change
> the three-mile limit at all? What about coastal landfills, or
drainage
> projects? Did the dykes and polders of the Netherlands change
their 3
> mile limits at all?
>
> David
>
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Brendan Whyte wrote:
>
> > I would not count a bridge or causeway as a land boundary, any
more than the
> > chunnel. Thus Singapore is an island, as is Bahrain, and Denmark
has one
> > land border.
> > Interesting special cases but not proper land boundaries.
> > BW
> >
> > >From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
> > >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > >To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > >Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Gideon Biger - reply to BW+query!
> > >Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 09:31:59 -0000
> > >
> > >Is this a land border? A sea border? Or an air space border? A
border
> > >on a bridge is peculiar...
> > >
> > >If it is within the 12 nm zone of both countries, I would say it
is
> > >above territorial waters. So if not a land border, then something
> > >very similar. But I don't think this Gideon Biger counts
boundaries
> > >in terr. water as land boundaries. He would count boundaries in
> > >internal water as such (incl. all sea inside of the baseline).
But I
> > >don't have his book here, so what do I know...
> > >
> > >Peter S.
> > >
> > >--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Mats Hessman <Mats@l...> wrote:
> > > > > don't fret about your country only having one border. After
> > > > > all, Australia
> > > > > is no-Biger than yours!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >Well, Brendan, I guess you're right, DK most
> > > > > >certainly deserves no more than one copy...
> > > > > >having only one boundary line...
> > > >
> > > > I must protest! From June 2000 Denmark is entitled
> > > > to another copy of Biger.
> > > >
> > > > Take a look at the non-wet boundary marker on
> > > > Peter's own site (!) at
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/mafiapetedk/bordersweden2.html.
> > > >
> > > > Mats
> > >
> >
> >
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