another good idea or several
& have no fear on my account as i dont think i have any issues
in that regard i suppose i lied by even filling in the poll form
& perhaps i really dont belong here
but i am just having too much fun while seeking help to make a list for a game
i will be attentive to your wishes tho because i like your advice & would
hope to get a lot more of it
best
m
>Thanks! I was afraid I was stepping into issues that had been discussed a
>lot.
>
>if you are part of a group that is going to use a short-hand, then you and
>the group must agree on the coding. if it is just for your own records,
>use what works best for you!
>
>David
>
>On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, michael donner wrote:
>
>> david
>> you are right & thanx for being here
>> m
>>
>> >Sorry if, as a newcomer to this list, I am out of touch, but why not
>> >PRONOUNCE and use the full names of the countires involved?? The 6-letter
>> >codes are handy for databases or file names, but they do not communicate
>> >very well. Especially if Namibia is WA and Botswana is BC! Country names
>> >change a lot, I guess the FIPS codes do not, but then they are out of step
>> >with the current names of countries. It does not take all that long to
>> >type or say the Finland/Russia/Norway point. This same issue comes up in
>> >birding, some birders like to use 4-letter codes for each bird species
>> >when taking notes, but I object strenuously when they post notes to the
>> >birding internet lists using these standardized yet obscure and arcane
>> >short-hands. And sometimes get into arguments. But communication is more
>> >important than brevity, and coded communication will turn off newbies and
>> >inhibit communication with non-specialists.
>> >
>> >David
>> >dmark@...
>> >
>> >On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, michael donner wrote:
>> >
>> >> the iso diglyph list is looking pretty good at
>> >> http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/codlstp1/en_listp1.html
>> >> & i would have just moved forward right away & adopted it out of hand
>> >> except for a few drawbacks i have just realized it holds for me
>> >>
>> >> 1
>> >> it has a substantially lower vowel to consonant ratio than the fips list
>> >>
>> >> & since these mostly 6 & 8letter names i am creating need to be utterable
>> >> & since the iso vowel shortfall should square or cube the difficulty
>>of iso
>> >> pronunciation
>> >> well that is a real setback
>> >>
>> >> for example the lovely & even sort of african sounding bcwazazi of fips
>> >> becomes the bwnazmzw point in iso
>> >>
>> >> happily this orthographic disaster could be pronounced
>> >> bwanas zoom zoo or bwanas mzoo
>> >> pertinent & memorable observations for that particular locale
>> >>
>> >> but the real deficit is that bwnazmzw & the iso names as a class are
>>bound
>> >> to look & feel far more unspeakable & forbidding than the fips
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2
>> >> i would have to undo a lot of stuff already done & possibly also ask
>>brian
>> >> to revamp our multinational section at the corner corner
>> >> all which is based on fips
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 3
>> >> it seems as tho the fips roster is less fickle than the iso
>> >> so a fips based naming system promises to be easier to maintain
>> >>
>> >> 4
>> >> etc
>> >>
>> >> hmmm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> but wait
>> >> why not simply make no basic changes & yet adopt both systems
>> >>
>> >> would that be so confusing
>> >>
>> >> as indexers we are almost bound to do it anyway
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> & we will be forgiven for seeming too anglo or yankocentric when it is
>> >> realized that the game was hatched & developed in north america as was
>> >> inevitable where cool tripoints are so rampant & easy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> just thinking out loud while inviting your thought before proceeding
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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