Subject: Re: Dutch-German boundary conflict (2)<br/>
Date: May 28, 2001 @ 06:17<br/>
Author: Peter Smaardijk (&quot;Peter Smaardijk&quot; &lt;smaardijk@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1647822005">The straight line in the Dollard looks like being already agreed <br/>
upon, at least the southern part of it. The northern part is dubious, <br/>
because it cuts in two the Geise dam that is keeping the riverbed in <br/>
its place.<br/>
<br/>
Interesting to see you have made a picture of 203-II, too!<br/>
<br/>
The little 1:50k topo atlas of Groningen I have show a boundary in <br/>
the Eems that must be the Dutch viewpoint: from the straight Dollard <br/>
line (which looks like to be a continuation of the last straight <br/>
stretch on land), just south of Emden, through the thalweg of the <br/>
Eems (called at this place on my map &quot;Vaarweg naar Emden&quot;, meaning <br/>
Navigation way to Emden, then following the thalweg towards &quot;Gaatje <br/>
Bocht&quot;, then taking the Oost Friesche Gaatje and not the Bocht van <br/>
Watum, thus leaving De Hond-De Paap to the Netherlands. The last bend <br/>
the boundary makes near the Eemshaven (the bend is towards the <br/>
Netherlands). The German viewpoint is indeed the way you describe it.<br/>
<br/>
BTW: 203-II looks like to be not the northernmost marker: on my map, <br/>
another boundary marker (&quot;Gp&quot;) can be seen on the sand plates of the <br/>
Dollard, in the middle of the straight line (near Dutch grid co-<br/>
ordinates 276,589). 203-II is the northernmost marker on permanently <br/>
dry land, though.<br/>
<br/>
Peter S.<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="qreply"> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., &quot;Harry ten Veen&quot; &lt;h.ten.veen@t...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt; Peter,<br/>
&gt; I have also looked into this matter.<br/>
&gt; All my Dutch topo-maps only show the straight borderline towards <br/>
Emden and<br/>
&gt; don&#39;t give the border in the Eems.<br/>
&gt; I have a German map though (Die General Karte, scale 1:200.000) <br/>
which,<br/>
&gt; respecting the straight line towards Emden, leaves almost no space <br/>
between<br/>
&gt; the borderline and the Groningen mainland.<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; Inspired as I was, I have uploaded a new page of my humble website, <br/>
showing<br/>
&gt; the borderstones near the Dollard.<br/>
&gt; <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://leden.tref.nl/~veenhh/borderland/nederland/dl-pa-gn.htm">http://leden.tref.nl/~veenhh/borderland/nederland/dl-pa-gn.htm</a><br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; gl<br/>
&gt; Harry ten Veen </span></blockquote></div>