Subject: maritime tps actual & probable & improbable per prescott 1985 etc
Date: Jul 28, 2000 @ 18:49
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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following is a first & still very rough list of the maritime tps
another case in point of standing on the shoulders of giants
unless indicated as actualities
these points existed mostly only in potential as of 1985
or arose in a few cases out of subsequent historical developments
but many of them have since become actualized as legal tps
much more research is still needed to sort things out
& many future tp agreements & confirmations may also be expected
in fact it may well prove impossible to get & stay on top of everything
but this list is a try at a version of probable truth
please note
a 0 preceding any point number such as 016 below indicates its improbability
rather than its probability per se
& such points are being mentioned at this point only out of a regard for
comprehensiveness
the indian ocean
1
frmgmz
france madagascar mozambique
north of juan de nova
in dispute
2 & 3
frmgsce & frmgscw
france madagascar seychelles
east twin north of tromelin
in dispute & maybe impossible anyway
west twin east of glorieuses
in dispute & possibly just frmgsc
4
frkmsc
comoros france seychelles
northeast of mayotte
in dispute
5
frkmmg
comoros france madagascar
southwest of mayotte
in dispute
6
kmmgmz
comoros madagascar mozambique
in mozambique channel
7
kmmztz
comoros mozambique tanzania
8
kmsctz
comoros seychelles tanzania
9
djsoye
djibouti somalia yemen
10
djerye
djibouti eritrea yemen
2nd was ethiopia then
11
ersaye
eritrea saudiarabia yemen
12
ersasd
eritrea saudi sudan
13
egsasd
egypt saudi sudan
14
egiljo
egypt israel jordan
15
iriqkw
iran iraq kuwait
016
irkwkwsa
iran kuwait kwsa or kuwaitsaudi neutral zone
017
irkwsasa
iran kwsa saudi
18
bhirsa
bahrain iran saudi
actually agreed
19
bhqasa
bahrain qatar saudi
was in dispute
20
bhirqa
bahrain iran qatar
21
aeirqa
iran qatar uaemirates
partly agreed
22 & 23 & 24
aeirome & aeiromm & aeiromw
iran oman uaemirates triplet tps
probably unique set of triplet trinational points
aeirome & aeiromm are both in gulf of oman
aeiromw is in persian gulf
progression is nearly as much south to north as it is east to west
25
irompk
iran oman pakistan
didnt i just see some news about this one
26
inlkmv
india maldives srilanka
partly agreed
27
bdinmms
bangladesh india myanmar formerly burma
southerly maritime twin tp of northerly continental one
28
inmmth
india myanmar thailand
east of andamans
partly agreed
29
idinth
india indonesia thailand
actually agreed
30
idmyth
indonesia malaysia thailand
actually agreed
inserted not from prescott
31 & 32
auidtpe & auidtpw
twin tps australia east timor indonesia
de facto & immanent
the pacific ocean
33
auidpg
australia indonesia papua newguinea
actually agreed
34
aupgsb
australia papuang solomons
partly agreed
35
aufrsb aka auncsb
australia france solomons
new caledonia immanent
partly agreed
36
fjfrvu aka fjncvu
fiji france vanuatu
new caledonia immanent
partly agreed
37
frsbvu aka ncsbvu
france solomons vanuatu
new caledonia immanent
38
fjfrtv aka fjtvwf
fiji france tuvalu
wallis & futuna immanent
partly agreed
39
fjfrto aka fjtowf
fiji france tonga
wallis & futuna immanent
partly agreed
40
frtows aka towfws
france samoa tonga
wallis & futuna immanent
partly agreed
41
tousws aka astows
samoa tonga unitedstates americansamoa
autonomous immanent
finally an american tp however cheapo
042
ascknu actually nznzus
cooks niue us amer samoa
cooks & niue are both new zealand territories
probably disqualifying this point as a tp
043
ascktk actually just another nznzus
cooks tokelau us amer samoa
cooks & tokelau are both new zealand territories
probably disqualifying this point as a tp also
44
tkusws aka astkws
samoa tokelau us amer samoa
autonomous immanent
partly agreed
a second american cheapo
45
frtkws aka tkwfws
france samoa tokelau
wallis & futuna immanent
46
kimhnr
kiribati marshalls nauru
47
idphpw
indonesia palau philippines
48
idmyph
indonesia malaysia philippines
in dispute
49 & 50
idmysge & idmysgw
twin tps indonesia malaysia singapore
southeast & southwest of singapore respectively
51
mythvn
malaysia thailand vietnam
52
khthvn
cambodia thailand vietnam
now entering spratlies chaos
& not necessarily following prescott
so anything is possible here in any quantity
like for instance at least 1 tp for each of the following 20 combinations
however seemingly improbable
but of course all in dispute
053
bncnmy
brunei china malaysia
054
bncnph
brunei china philippines
055
bncntw
brunei china taiwan
056
bncnvn
brunei china vietnam
057
bnmyph
brunei malaysia philippines
058
bnmytw
brunei malaysia taiwan
059
bnmyvn
brunei malaysia vietnam
060
bnphtw
brunei philippines taiwan
061
bnphvn
brunei philippines vietnam
062
bntwvn
brunei taiwan vietnam
063
cnmyph
china malaysia philippines
064
cnmytw
china malaysia taiwan
065
cnmyvn
china malaysia vietnam
066
cnphtw
china philippines taiwan
067
cnphvn
china philippines vietnam
068
cntwvn
china taiwan vietnam
069
myphtw
malaysia philippines taiwan
070
myphvn
malaysia philippines vietnam
071
mytwvn
malaysia taiwan vietnam
072
phtwvn
philippines taiwan vietnam
end of spratlies
all possible but unpredictable
& hopefully not entirely ridiculous as an intermezzo
73
jpphtw
japan philippines taiwan
probable tho not mentioned by prescott
74
cnjptw
china japan taiwan
075
cnjpjpkr
china japan jpkr
jpkr is japan south korea joint zone
76
cnkpkr
china nkorea skorea
respectively
77
jpkpkr
japan nkorea skorea
in dispute
may not exist
78
kpkrru
nkorea russia skorea
in dispute
may not exist
79
jpkrru
japan russia skorea
in dispute
may not exist
however 2 of these last 3 should exist in any case
80
hnnisv
elsalvador honduras nicaragua
81
crnisv
costarica elsalvador nicaragua
map is unclear
82
cocrpa
colombia costarica panama
the atlantic ocean
incl the arctic ocean
83
gyttve
guyana trinidad&tobago venezuela
84
bbgytt
barbados guyana trinidad&tobago
85
bbttvc
barbados stvincent&grenadines trinidad&t
86
gdttvc
grenada stvincent&g trinidad&t
87
gdttve
grenada trinidad&t venezuela
88
gdvcve
grenada stvincent&g venezuela
89
lcvcve
stlucia stvincent&g venezuela
90
bblcvc
barbados stlucia stvincent&g
91
bbfrlc
barbados france stlucia
92
frlcve
france stlucia venezuela
partly agreed
93 & 94
dmfrven & dmfrves
twin tps dominica france venezuela
dmfrven aka dmgpve sw of guadeloupe partly agreed
dmfrves aka dmmqve sw of martinique possibly partly agreed
95
frgbve aka gpmsve
france unitedkingdom venezuela
guadeloupe & montserrat
96
agfrgb aka aggpms
antigua&barbuda france unitedkingdom
guadeloupe & montserrat
97
aggbkn aka agknms
antigua&b stkitts&nevis unitedkingdom
montserrat
98
gbknve
stkitts&nevis unitedkingdom venezuela
montserrat
99
knnlve or anknve
netherlands stkitts&n venezuela
netherlands antilles
partly agreed
100
frknnl
france netherlands stkitts&n
st barthelemy & st martin
101
agfrkn
antigua&b france stkitts&n
st barthelemy
102
agfrgb
antigua&b france unitedkingdom
anguilla & st barts or st martin
103
frgbnl
france netherlands unitedkingdom
st martin & anguilla
104
gbnlus or perhaps even aianvgvi tho not likely
netherlands unitedkingdom unitedstates
neth antilles & anguilla & brvirgins & usvirgins
finally a 3rd american tp
105
nlusve or anvevi
netherlands usvirgins venezuela
neth antilles
4th american
partly agreed
106
nlusve or anprve or awprve
netherlands uspuertorico venezuela
unclear whether neth antilles or aruba
5th american
partly agreed
107
donlus or andopr or awdopr
dominicanrep netherlands uspuertorico
unclear whether neth ant or aruba
6th american
108
donlve or andove or awdove
dominicanrep netherlands venezuela
unclear whether neth ant or aruba
109
codove
colombia dominicanrep venezuela
partly agreed
110
codoht
colombia dominicanrep haiti
partly agreed
111
dohttc
dominicanrep haiti turks&caicos
112
bshttc
bahamas haiti turks&c
113
bscuht
bahamas cuba haiti
partly agreed
114
cuhtus or cuhtum
cuba haiti usnavassa
7th american
partly agreed
115
cujmus or cujmum
cuba jamaica usnavassa
8th american
116
htjmus or htjmum
haiti jamaica usnavassa
9th american
117
cohtjm
colombia haiti jamaica
partly agreed
owing to a large area of dispute between colombia & nicaragua
the following 10 points are in dispute & possibly nonexistent
but 5 or 6 of them must exist somewhere
we just dont know which ones yet
118
cojmni
colombia jamaica nicaragua
119
conipa
columbia nicaragua panama
120
cocrpa
colombia costarica panama
121
crnipa
costarica nicaragua panama
122
cocrni
colombia costarica nicaragua
123
cohnni
colombia honduras nicaragua
124
cohnky
caymans colombia honduras
125
hnkyni
caymans honduras nicaragua
126
cojmky
caymans colombia jamaica
127
jmkyni
caymans jamaica nicaragua
end of colombia nicaragua dispute area
128
cujmky
caymans cuba jamaica
129
cuhnky
caymans cuba honduras
130
cuhnmx
cuba honduras mexico
131
bzhnmx
belize honduras mexico
132
bzgthn
belize guatemala honduras
133
cumxus
cuba mexico unitedstates
easterly donut hole
not from prescott
tp possibly nonexistant
recently in the news
134
bscuus
bahamas cuba unitedstates
partly agreed
10th american
following are 4 tps of median lines in arctic high seas
depicted but not explained by prescott
so they are questionable as real or potential tps
0135
caruus
canada russia unitedstates
0136
cadkru or caglru
canada denmark russia
greenland
0137
dknoru or glrusj
denmark norway russia
greenland & svalbardjanmayen
a curious pair of nonidentical twins follow
0138
dkisnoe or foissj
denmark iceland norway
faeroes
questionable
& returning to the atlantic proper now for the 2nd twin
139
dkisnow or glissj
denmark iceland norway
greenland & svalbardjanmayen
partly agreed & unquestionable
140
dkgbno or fogbno
denmark norway unitedkingdom
faeroes
141
dkgbis or fogbis
denmark iceland unitedkingdom
faeroes
probable but not definite
142
frgbie
france ireland unitedkingdom
partly agreed
143
befrgb
belgium france unitedkingdom
144
begbnl
belgium netherlands unitedkingdom
145
degbnl
germany netherlands unitedkingdom
nlat 55 45 54 x elong 03 22 13 dms
146
dedkgb
denmark germany unitedkingdom
nlat 55 55 09 4 dmst x elong 03 21 00 dms
147
dkgbno
denmark norway unitedkingdom
nlat 56 05 12 x elong 03 15 00 dms
148
dknose
denmark norway sweden
agreed
149 & 150
dedksee & dedksew
twin tps denmark germany sweden
151
denmark germany poland
dedkpl
partly agreed
152
dkplse
denmark poland sweden
the following 6 are subsequent developments
153
plruse
poland russia sweden
154
ltruse
lithuania russia sweden
155
ltlvse
latvia lithuania sweden
156
eelvse
estonia latvia sweden
157
eefise
estonia finland sweden
158
eefiru
estonia finland russia
159 & 160
esmaptn & esmapts
twin tps morocco portugal spain
esmaptn west of gibraltar
esmapts west of agadir
madeira & canaries
161
ehesma
morocco spain westernsahara
canaries
questionable as tp
162
cvehmr
capeverde mauritania westernsahara
163
cvmrsn
capeverde mauritania senegal
164 & 165
cvgmsnn & cvgmsns
twin tps capeverde gambia senegal
both partly agreed
0166
bjghtg
benin ghana togo
close but probably impossible
167
bjngst
benin nigeria saotome&principe
close call not necessarily real
168
gqngst
equatorialguinea nigeria saotome&p
169
cmgqng
cameroon equatguinea nigeria
170
gagqst
equatguinea gabon saotome&p
171
aocdcgw
maritime twin tp angola congobrazza congokinshasa of continental counterpart
close call not necessarily real
& into the mediterranean
172
esgbma or esgima
morocco spain unitedkingdom
gibraltar
close call not necessarily real
but if real then possibly twin
173
dzesma
algeria morocco spain
islas chaferinas
174
dzesit
algeria italy spain
sardinia
partly agreed
175
esfrit
france italy spain
partly agreed
176
dzittn
algeria italy tunisia
corsica minorca sardinia
partly agreed
177
itmttn
italy malta tunisia
178
lymttn
libya malta tunisia
probable but not certain
179
itlymt
italy libya malta
180
gritly
greece italy libya
181
algrit
albania greece italy
182
alityu
albania italy yugoslavia
183
hrityu
croatia italy yugoslavia
184
hritsi
croatia italy slovenia
185
eggrly
egypt greece libya
186
cyeggr
cyprus egypt greece
187
cyegil
cyprus egypt israel
188
cyilps or egilps not sure which
cyprus or egypt israel palestine
one or the other is probably imminent
189
cyillb
cyprus israel lebanon
190
cylbsy
cyprus lebanon syria
191
cysytr
cyprus syria turkey
192
cygrtr
cyprus greece turkey
0193 & 0194
cygblbn & cygblbs
twin tps cypus lebanon unitedkingdom
possible but unlikely
0195
cygbil
cyprus israel unitedkingdom
possible but unlikely
0196
cyeggb
cyprus egypt unitedkingdom
possible but unlikely
the following are not from prescott but likely
197
bgrotr
bulgaria romania turkey
& finally some more new ones
198
rotrua
romania turkey ukraine
199
rutrua
russia turkey ukraine
200
gerutr
georgia russia turkey
subtracting a total of about 40 improbables
leaves a probable total of about 160
or very roughly the same number as the continental tps
i tremble to think a first try at a complete global roster may not be far off
obviously any new data or other input will be greatly appreciated
m