brendan
your recent mention of the sealess coastal enclave on cyprus
& your reference to offshore dependencies in the followup message
raise several old & new questions involving claves & territorial seas
which i hope you &or others will also be able to answer
if not absolutely now then at least somehow sometime
possibly in the following order of importance or interest
first
how many world class claves are there really
& how might they be most sensibly grouped into the subcategories of
enclaves & exclaves & fragments
&or any other subcategories
& can they all be listed by their individual natural names yet
or by any other generally recognizable names
in other words are we in reach of a first global clave census & roster
as we are for the countries of the world themselves
& as we have already tried for the tricountry points etc
second
would the above questions be answered any differently if adjacent
territorial seas were considered integral parts of those coastal clave
territories that have them
just as much as they are integral to the so called metropolitan areas or
nuclear territories of coastal & archipelagic countries generally
third
do you really mean by the term fragments to invoke the idea of fracturing &
breaking
& to imply that these entities have actually been broken or have broken
or are broken or are being broken in some sense
or is all that just my own subjective gloss upon this word
for wouldnt some term that is less suggestive of disintegration & disruption
while still conveying the idea of partition & separation
such as outer lands or outlying areas or particles for example
be more faithful to clave reality & more generally helpful & ameliorative
or for referring equally to both claves & their metro areas
some term like compartments or co parts or installments
or even tho seemingly contrarian contiguities continuities continua etc
but also
since i am still unsure what new distinctions you mean to make by
introducing the term fragments
& would like to understand this better
dont the 3 traditional terms enclave & exclave & metropolitan area alone
suffice to cover all eventualities
if used correctly
m
>
>That would seem right.
>Not counting Nagorno or Palestinian west bank, Tibet, or SMOM:
>
>triple-landlocked: 0 countries, 1 enclave, one counter-counter-enclave.
>= 2 fragments
>
>double-landlocked
>2 doubly landlocked countries, Liechtenstein and Uzkebistan. And other
>doubly landlocked enclaves include Campione, Busingen, the 7 dutch
>counter-enclaves at Baarle, the russian enclave in Belarus, the 5 enclaves
>of armenia and Azerbaijan (Nagorno doesn't count as it is not recognised as
>Armenian or independent), the counter enclave at Madha in the UAE,the 6
>other Ferghana enclaves and the 21 Pakistani and 3 Indian counter enclaves.
>= 2 countries, 14 enclaves & 32 counter-enclaves
>= 2 countries and 46 fragments.
>
>single-landlocked
>39 countries, 23 enclaves at Baarle, Llivia, 5 at Monschau, 3 at Cyprus [1
>is already on the sea, although it has no territorial sea of its own]
>Nakihichevan, Madha.
>= 39 countries, 33 enclaves , 1 other fragment (Nakhichevan).
>= 39 countries, 34 fragments
>
>Unlandlocked:
>approx 200 countries.
>
>
>>From: granthutchison@...
>>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Triple land-locking
>>Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:11:43 -0000
>>
>>Here's a random thought that has just come to me. I think there are
>>probably only two triple land-locked territories in the world - areas
>>from which you can't reach the sea without crossing three national
>>boundaries. One is the (pretty obvious) third-order Indian enclave in
>>Bangladesh, and the other is the Tajik enclave in Uzbekistan.
>>Does anyone else find that at all interesting?
>>
>>Grant
>>
>
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