Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] revised canada & caus guesses
Date: Apr 14, 2001 @ 18:56
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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right
very nice
crown lands
& perhaps even inland crown waters


but canadian territorial seas must be different

& american territorial seas are different again by being clearly
distinguished from the maritime territory of the individual states &
territories
at the 3 mile & in a few cases the 3 league limits

m

>
>Crown lands are those not in private hands, basically. They are held on
>behalf of the crown by the govt. In austrlaia this is at state level mainly.
>For example, all the large pastoral leases in the outback are crown lands
>leased out to graziers. Various reserves and parks are also crown lands,
>held back fomr alientation to private hands.
>IN the US this probably equates to federal lands, but herei n Australai,
>fecderal lands means stuff owned by the federal govt itsefl, like military
>bases, quarantine stations, etc.
>The central or even state govts can sell off crown lands, but i suspect the
>process is different fomr selling real estate that is owned by the govt as
>an institution. Ie the govt could buy land for a govt building off a private
>owner, asnd then resell it as normal. But crown lands require alienation
>first.
>
>Thus crown lands does not mean federal land outside the states, but is
>inside the states, or provinces in canada. Because each state/privince was a
>separate colony before federation in each of our countries, so had its own
>crown lands. As terra nullius, Austrlaia was all corwn land once claimed by
>the UK. What is left is either of little value, ie outback, or reserves, ie
>parks, coastal strips, etc.
>
>
>BW
>
>
>>From: michael donner <m@...>
>>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] revised canada & caus guesses
>>Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:54:13 -0400
>>
>>htCrown lands are those not in priate hands,
>>basicallytp://realtor.mls.ca/london/MNR/fact_sheet_ls2.htm
>> in the section entitled what are crown lands
>>surprised me by implying that crown may mean not only the federal
>>government but also a provincial government as well
>>
>>aha
>>
>>
>>if this is true
>>then all the canadian crown inland waters may well have been fully
>>distributed to the provinces & territories
>>& thus may not produce federative tripoints at all
>>
>>aha
>>
>>so maybe no need to get drunk without a life jacket in ontario after all
>>
>>
>>& if that is the case
>>then all the dreaded myriads of hypothetical freshwater federative
>>tripoints
>> both the internal ones & those on the caus line
>>simply dry up on the spot
>>leaving only the maritime crown waters tripoints still probably intact
>>
>>
>>anyway i certainly hope this is all true
>>because then the analysis could be completed fairly easily
>>& in esthetically pleasing & even & round numbers to boot
>>
>>granted that there would still be at least several possible views
>>& with all due respect to them
>>but following the nicholson information previously culled
>>i would summarize the major domestic multipoints as follows
>>
>> 0 multiprovincial points
>> 4 mixed status multipoints all on the 60th parallel
>>10 mixed status coastal federal waters multipoints well scattered
>>26 multiterritorial coastal federal waters points all arctic
>>
>>40 total legally real primary subdivisional multipoints
>>
>>
>>& i would summarize the tripoints on the caus international boundary as
>>follows
>>
>>18 mixed provincial or territorial & state tripoints on inland boundaries
>> 8 crown waters & provincial or territorial & state tripoints on coasts
>> 4 crown & american & state waters tripoints at 3 mile limits disputed
>>
>>30 total legally real mixed interfederative tripoints
>>
>>
>>ahh
>>that feels good
>>
>>m
>>
>>
>>
>
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