Subject: search for germany benelux river condos advances
Date: Apr 08, 2001 @ 23:09
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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still working in the dark for lack of an 1815 treaty of vienna text
& still clueless also about any later international agreements that could
have affected the river condo or condos originally created then

but a lucky catch at
http://www.luxembourg.co.uk/fish_border.html
makes the delu river condo on the moselle at schengen aka defrlu
which several members have already pointed out with pix & maps
seem likely to continue northward
first all the way down the moselle to wasserbillig
& from there all the way up the tributary river sauer to wallendorf
& finally all the way up its tributary river the our to bedelu
except in this last case for a very short stretch around vianden where the
delu boundary leaves the river our

this single detour breaks the possible river condo territory into two
separate pieces
& may produce a pair of riparian condo tripoints in the process
one just southeast & the other just north of vianden

these newly noticed possibilities
added to the earlier observation of a condo & tricountry line at defrlu
rather than an ordinary tri country point
& the pursuant supposition of a similar condo area & triline at bedelu
complete in prospect now the condominial & punctological survey of delu

also tho only in passing
& just to promote all the tri country points of luxembourg equally
the locatienet zoomable map seems to indicate befrlu is high & dry
rather than riverine as previously thought



but proceeding generally northward from luxembourg
to reexamine the bede boundary also for any sign of river condos
the multimap zoomable site indicates bede leaves the river our
just as delu did at vianden
but not only once in this case
at the point previously noticed 700 meters above bedelu
but also after another brief reunion a few km farther upstream
& thus it too may produce 2 distinct areas of bede river condo
& with them
besides the triline already observed at bedelu
& its companion riparian condo tripoint previously deduced
a pair of newly guessed riparian tripoints at the ends of the upper condo
all of which together likewise prospectively complete the condominial &
punctological survey of bede


& finally reaching holland
a search of the denl was not as productive as the delu & bede boundaries
turning up only 1 potential river condo within the formerly prussian sector
namely along a short reach of the rhine

but the only maps found so far all depict this as a midriver boundary
& moreover the treatment of this area in 1815 or afterwards might easily
have differed from the treatment of the moselle & its tributaries
so a denl condo seems far less likely than any of the above possibilities
tho not yet entirely out of the question

a still more dubious hanoverian possibility also exists
along a river or canal possibly named zijl
but i mention it only to complete the survey



thus in summary
leaving aside the 2 unlikely denl condos & their 4 unlikely tripoints
there are a total of 2 likely delu & 2 likely bede condos
along with their associated 2 likely trilines at defrlu & bedelu
each of these spanning an unmatched pair of bookend tripoints
plus a total of 5 likely simple condo tripoints separate from the trilines


treaty texts &or better maps are the indispensable next steps
if further progress is to be made here

m