Yes, $3000, but...
As they themselves say: (Median line document, page 4) Median line:
published as interim boundary pending multilateral agreement; serves
as basis for multilateral agreement.
This company can make any median line, or any other maritime
boundary. On demand. And I don't think it's too difficult either
(when you have the software to do it).
In other words: They provide the data to states that don't have any
treaties yet. So these states can make a treaty based on the data
this company delivers. It is almost as if they have a standard
maritime boundary treaty template ready to fill in.
They even incorporate already existing treaties into their data
("Multilateral Agreements: published as coordinate lists").
In other words: a beautiful data set, but officially endorsed data,
from treaties, is where it's at. And treaties (at least as a rule)
are for free.
So I wouldn't despair if I were you, Michael (although I too would
give a good thing to be able to peek into their data base, that's for
sure...).
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
> whoops
> i just read some more fine print at this site
> & it seems a subscription still costs 3 grand a year
> with no absolute guarantee of completeness or correctness
> & a computed tripoint error margin of up to 20nm
>
> they do say they show all claims to the spratly islands etc tho
> so that at least is a very encouraging indication
>
> but perhaps the best plan is still to lay back on the eez tps for
at least
> a few more years until the data harden up & cheapen down
> as it seems to me they must continue to do
>
> still the present good news appears to be that
> given enough money & energy & time
> a complete & fairly accurate survey of all actual & hypothetical
tps is
> already becoming quite possible
>
> m
>
>
> >Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 12:27:35 -0500
> >To: boundarypoint@egroups.com
> >From: michael donner <m@...>
> >Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Okino-tori Shima/Parece Vela
> >Cc:
> >Bcc:
> >X-Attachments:
> >
> >well peter at least yours was a relatively small bubble that
burst here
> >
> >this incredible new site has me bouncing completely off the wall
because
> >it actually revives the 200 point trial balloon i originally
floated way
> >back in message 247 & then recently unfloated in message 1786
because i
> >wrongly concluded that the data necessary to complete the try
would be too
> >expensive & elusive in my lifetime
> >
> >but the level of sheer detail that is promised in this site
> >by the pakistan sample for example
> >& by the ability of projecting hypothetical median lines with
precision
> >etc
> >actually fulfills the wish i expressed in 247 & abandoned in 1786
> >hahahahaha
> >
> >
> >indeed from what they are already showing here
> >it probably only remains to see whether their gis system can sort
out the
> >spratly islands & a few other notable messes
> >& we will have our global register of actual & putative tripoints
> > both the territorial ones & the eez ones
> >complete & up to date
> >
> >m
> >
> >
> >>>From: Peter Smaardijk <peter.smaardijk@a...>>
> >>
> >>On the site of the world map (
<http://www.maritimeboundaries.com/>
> >>http://www.maritimeboundaries.com/ ) some very enlightening
documents
> >>can be found. Especially the doc on median lines, and the various
other
> >>ones under 'Publications'.
> >>
> >>For example, I can now see that my previous hypothesis in msg.
1745 is a
> >>false one. The bay will in
> >>that case be closed off by the baseline (see the ESRI paper on
> >><http://www.maritimeboundaries.com/>
http://www.maritimeboundaries.com/ ,
> >>fig. 2).
> >>
> >>Peter S.
> >>
> >>michael donner wrote:
> >>
> >>> good to see all these puffy balloons again
> >>> especially that worldwide version in the next message
> >>> & really cranking up for the first time on line now
> >>> as it all looks like a page right out of prescott
> >>> & it reminds me that there really are all those eez tps
everywhere 3
> >>> balloons meet
> >>> & also that we still have uncounted dozens of them to look
forward to
> >>> perhaps after we exhaust the territorial tps
> >>> & it most especially reminds that a revised description of the
sovereign
> >>> territory of everyones land is now overdue expressly to
incorporate the
> >>> previously overlooked seabed underlying all eezs
> >>> or in other words everywhere to within 12nm of dry land
> >>> except antarctica of course whose lands & waters are already
everyones
> >>> anyway
> >>> if i am not mistaken
> >>>
> >>> also this map agrees pretty well with prescott plus your
additions peter
> >>> except he indicates a jpkr joint zone in the east china sea
south of korea
> >>> & west of kyushu
> >>> which this map shows as entirely japanese eez
> >>> & it could have tripointing implications
> >>>
> >>> noteworthy also is that the light blue hole entirely surrounded
by japanese
> >>> eezs of both colors is evidently entirely everyones land
> >>> including the bed & bedding & the water & air columns
> >>>
> >>> but it is not an exclave as i previously thought
> >>> nor are any of the other 17 of these holes i have called
exclaves
> >>> & which you can now see on the worldwide map
> >>> forgive me mats
> >>> since they are all connected to metro everyones land by
everyones seabed
> >>>
> >>> indeed everyones land like everyone ourselves is now one
> >>>
> >>> or nearly so
> >>> since there must be a few places like the black sea i think
> >>> where it is cut off by a turkey or a similar situation
> >>>
> >>> again everyone please feel free to correct any mistakes in
all this
> >>> as it is only my best guess so far
> >>>
> >>> m
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> ><<http://www.vill.ogasawara.tokyo.jp/200kairi.htm>
> >>>http://www.vill.ogasawara.tokyo.jp/200kairi.htm>
> >>> ><http://www.vill.ogasawara.tokyo.jp/200kairi.htm>
> >>>http://www.vill.ogasawara.tokyo.jp/200kairi.htm
> >>> >
> >>> >You don't have to know Japanese to see the implications of
tiny rocks on
> >>> >your EEZ. The only thing I
> >>> >can read on this map is 200. Presumably the nautical miles.
Okino-tori
> >>> >Shima is in the green area at
> >>> >the centre-bottom of the map, touching the central green and
the dark blue
> >>> >areas.
> >>> >The site is about the Ogasawara or Bonin Islands. The green
areas are
> >>> >probably the EEZ around these
> >>> >islands. The one on the right is around Marcus Isl.
> >>> >
> >>> >Note also that the Northern Territories a.k.a the Southern
Kuriles are
> >>> >incorporated in Japan on this
> >>> >map. So are the Senkaku group, and the same probably goes for
Tok-do
> >>> >a.k.a. Liancourt. All of this
> >>> >is disputed between Japan and other countries....
> >>> >
> >>> >Peter S.
> >>> >
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