Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: maritime sovereignty and jurisdiction
Date: Mar 18, 2001 @ 19:46
Author: michael donner (michael donner <m@...>)
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>I can only think of cases where there is already an area of
>territorial waters defined, but then some sort of an exception is
>made for the sovereignty of an island, and the island gets less of an
>area of terr. waters around it as it would when the general rule was
>applied. So these cases (if existing) should be well described in
>treaties, exactly because it is the result of an explicite exception
>made.
>
>It's a bit like Llivia staying Spanish, because it is a CITY and not
>a village. And the treaty talks of villages....
>
>Peter S.
>
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner <m@d...> wrote:
>> i agree too
>> & that is precisely why the outcome of this past fridays icj
>decision is so
>> potentially groundbreaking
>> er i mean such a potential watershed development
>> & so earthshaking in a historical way
>>
>> but i cant digest or even follow it all yet
>>
>> m
>>
>> >
>> >Peter, I think you are exactly correct, which is why
>such "territorial sea
>> >enclaves" are so rare, perhaps totally non-existent. The 12-mile
>french
>> >territorial sea zone around St. Pierre et Micquelon is not
>enclosed by
>> >Canada's territorial waters.
>> >David
>> >
>> >On Wed, 14 Mar 2001, Peter Smaardijk wrote:
>> >
>> >> But this is strange. The width of the band of territorial waters
>is the
>> >>same from the islands as
>> >> from the shore, I would think. The terr. waters of such an
>island can
>> >>only be completely surrounded
>> >> by the terr. waters of the mainland if the island is in a bay of
>which
>> >>the bay heads are so close
>> >> that the terr. waters close off the bay. But I would think in
>that case
>> >>the base line would pass in
>> >> between the bay heads, the water would become internal water,
>and the
>> >>island an enclave.
>> >>
>> >> In short: the terr. waters of the island (let's take the Namibian
>> >>example) reaches further west than
>> >> the terr. waters of Namibia.
>> >>
>> >> Peter S.
>> >>
>> >> Brendan Whyte wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Afetr Namibia's independence, S.Africa claimed many of the
>islands
>> >>along its
>> >> > coast, often little more than stacks. The Terr. Sea they had
>was often
>> >> > within that of Namibia fomr the sketch maps I have seen.
>> >> >
>> >> > B
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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